The lies being touted by this crowd to try and railroad this thing through are utterly disgusting.
There are on average 120 childeren born in ireland each year with Downs Syndrome. In each of 2015 and 2016 40 Irish babies with the DS were terminated in the UK. Thats shocking. It clearly links the lifestyle choice of abortion which the pro abortion crowd are denying.
It is very very clear that these numbers will increase year on year should we provide this service in ireland. the 12 week rule is a nonsense. it means nothing. there will be conditions attached to allow a woman declare she is suicidal and she will get a written note to bring to the abortion clinic.
there will be no DS kids born in ireland with 10/15 year.
DS only the tip of the iceberg. Any perceived none perfect blue eyed child will be destroyed in this manner.
Thats what is coming down the line and its horrific.
Yet you have no problem with people mocking the appearance of people with Downâs.
This is even more bizarre than your usual hypocrisy.
what in Gods earth are you raving about?
this is about the lifestyle choice of killing babies who have Downs Syndrome. Its very serious.
you are bizarrely using Seamus Colemans appearance to deflect from this very real and serious issue. You are being really shitty, the level of this debate is 1000 times above where you are trying to bring it.
Iâm not using Colemanâs appearance you complete fucking idiot. 
you dug up a comment by a third party to attempt in some way equate a comment on his appearance to killing babies with DS as a lifestyle choice.
the issue is too serious to be playing silly games so im out of this, start a seamus coleman thread maybe.
Why is Coleman been mentioned here.
Not a question of yay or nay to abortion. Not at all. As laid out by Kate OâConnell and others, including Micheal Martin, abortions happen in Ireland pretty much every day due to availability of various items online. However much people want to ignore this reality, it is an Irish reality.
The yay or nay question? Whether the state should not just make people feel holy but also make them feel superior. Any Irish female who has a cleft lip pregnancy or a Downâs Syndrome pregnancy or any cognate situation is in no way prevented from having a termination by the current legal situation. Let us all be honest about this truth.
Of itself, this truth makes the situation no less complex. But recognizing this truth, in all its complexity, would be a start.
Then there is a need to severely clampdown on and hand out custodial sentences to those who seek to terminate pregnancies, not allow them.
People commit crime and break laws every day, is that justification for legalising murder or burglary or assault because people will do this regardless of legislation? The law acts as a deterrent, it can not force compliance but it can influence people not to due to the consequences.
Sure lock up all women who might be candidates for abortion like the good old days you pine for.
We saw what a Catholic church controlled country was like already, remember. Iâm pretty sure not too many want to to go back there, other than the obviously mentally deranged.
Nobody is saying that. They should serve custodial sentences if they get abortions though.
Only religious nutters believe that. The vast majority of such nutters on the island of Ireland are from the six counties, interestingly enough from both sides of the historical divide.
If you want to live in a society that locks up women for their reproductive choices, then do us all a favor and fuck back over the pretend border where the concentration camps for women are more likely to happen.
You call people who disagree with killing babies as religious nutters.
How do you plan on policing this?
The same way as is done when any crime is committed.
That answer is too vague.
How do you plan on giving custodial sentences to every woman who has had an abortion abroad?
It sounds like a mammoth task to undertake, but Iâm sure you have thought this through and will explain to us how the Gards will implement it.
Yes, because referring to abortion as killing babies is moronic and a statement only a religious nutter can make. Nutters need to be exposed and their nutter views discarded.
Are you arguing that a woman who takes the abortion pill should be imprisoned? If you are this is purely a religious argument, and specifically the belief system of a fundamentalist Christian. Do you also believe the earth is flat and was âcreatedâ within the past 10,000 years?
Do you even understand the concept of separation of church and state?
What do you think of that?
All women leaving the country will be (forcibly if necessary) given a pregnancy test, and the test repeated on their return. Those who tested positive leaving the country and negative on their return will be sentenced to life imprisonment with hard labor.
That will teach them.
Deflection from the question at hand.
Do you believe Irish women who take an abortion pill should be imprisoned? You are the one who suggested custodial sentences for women who have abortions, back up your argument.