All-Ireland Hurling Championship 2019***

[Perez2017]

It’s heading to a complete split between club and county in the not too distant future in my opinion. Be a total sickener for rural clubs in particular where the local club is the heartbeat but they only see their county lads for 3 or 4 games anyway. I was speaking to a senior club manager last week who told me he hopes the county are knocked out soon so the club can play championship . Sad situation when you hope your own county is beaten but I couldn’t disagree with him.

[the_man_himself]

Is it not? In my experience top school teams will train more than college teams and those players are probably playing more games than college lads overall with the amount of teams they’d be on

[the_man_himself]

@anon78624367

Lads don’t seem to understand that club games don’t generate revenue

FFS

[anon32894817]

@the_man_himself

@anon32894817

Because players get no break. The minute the inter county season is over they back in with clubs and then they start training for the colleges once that is over. Players deserve some sort of off season.

They’d get no break anyway. They’re in training with the intercounty panel while the Fitzgibbon is going on anyway

If there wasn’t a ridiculous double league format we have at the moment of course they could. You then have a heap of clubs in September, October and November. Of course played under lights and at ridiculous times. Premier league soccer teams go back training in late June for games in August. 8 week pre season for the most part. Currently you’ve an inter county teams go back in January at the latest for a championship game in May. Minimum of 12 weeks training and essentially playing meaningless friendlies. They then play 75 percent of the games in 5 weeks. It makes no sense.

[kerry1891]

I don’t get the whinge about no summer games for club players. There are club leagues right through the summer in nearly every county just not any championship matches. So plenty of matches for club players. The reality is most clubs don’t want to hear about championship during the summer. Players will head away for the summer, J1s, concerts , holidays etc leaving a decimated club team. They are heading to all these places irrespective. very few want to admit the above is the reality , easier to whine about scheduling

[Perez2017]

Club games not generating enough income is true. The problem in a nutshell.

[Perez2017]

Club leagues are a joke in every county. Kerry take them seriously but that’s it.

[the_man_himself]

I wouldn’t mind the no summer club games either if the championship started in September. Instead the championship starts in fucking April

[Ashman]

The Waterford team went to Portugal for a week training after the league . Let that sink in . Cost at least 50k

[anon32894817]

@iron_mike

Eamon Cregan started an AIF at 35 years of ages. Tommy Walsh was barely 30 when he retired.
The structure is still based around lads breaking into county teams in their early 20s and getting 10/15 years out of it. Nowadays it’s a young mans game with lads barely out of teens breaking in and having to retire before they hit 30. Point being you need to change the mindset at them top before you try and do anything.

There’s a number of reasons for it but I’d love to know the percentage of lads in college that played championship this summer compared to even five years ago. Very difficult to hold down full time jobs and play for a long period of time. There’ll be exceptions but I’d say the inter county career will mostly be finished by 30 soon.

[anon32894817]

@anon78624367

Lads don’t seem to understand that club games don’t generate revenue.

You’d don’t seem to understand without the clubs there’d be no players.

[kerry1891]

@anon32894817

@iron_mike

Eamon Cregan started an AIF at 35 years of ages. Tommy Walsh was barely 30 when he retired.
The structure is still based around lads breaking into county teams in their early 20s and getting 10/15 years out of it. Nowadays it’s a young mans game with lads barely out of teens breaking in and having to retire before they hit 30. Point being you need to change the mindset at them top before you try and do anything.

There’s a number of reasons for it but I’d love to know the percentage of lads in college that played championship this summer compared to even five years ago. Very difficult to hold down full time jobs and play for a long period of time. There’ll be exceptions but I’d say the inter county career will mostly be finished by 30 soon.

not if you are the Waterford football keeper, career begins at 40!

[Ashman]

Tommy Walsh was retired

[GeoffreyBoycott]

Back in my own club playing days, club championship was only ever really played off from late August to early October. That was largely down to the younger lads going off on J1’s and traveling during the summer months.

[Perez2017]

Senior club championships could be cut in number. In limerick 4 teams have a chance, Waterford is a 1 way street, tipp 4 maybe, cork standard gone way back, 8 teams maybe considering the size of the county, Clare probably most competitive club Championship in munster. 8 should be the maximum of any senior club championship. 2 groups of 4.

[Ashman]

A lot of clubs are in real bother in limerick the current success of the senior team is papering over a lot of cracks . At underage Kilmallock , the well , Adare are really struggling . Na P have peaked and currently it is debatable if monaleen and Mungret will up it . The club situation needs to be addressed .

[kerry1891]

@Perez2017

Club leagues are a joke in every county. Kerry take them seriously but that’s it.

if they are a joke then it is because clubs have allowed them become so but sure lets find someone else to blame for that too

I am unsure they are a joke in every county. leagues very competitive in Dublin in both codes, think tyrone have good leagues

[Aristotle]

There is absolutely no way that intercounty managers will allow the club championships run concurrently, bar maybe the odd game or two as before… But that just meant shoving a load of games into a short space of time for the clubs (which is 99% of the players).

Intercounty managers want more access to players if anything.

I actually think the current system is as good as it’s going to get tbh. I wouldn’t change it.

[Perez2017]

Leagues don’t work in gaa. Inter county leagues are a joke too.

[anon32894817]

@Aristotle

There is absolutely no way that intercounty managers will allow the club championships run concurrently, bar maybe the odd game or two as before… But that just meant shoving a load of games into a short space of time for the clubs (which is 99% of the players).

Intercounty managers want more access to players if anything.

I actually think the current system is as good as it’s going to get tbh. I wouldn’t change it.

Take the power away from inter county managers who are for the most part spoofers. Clubs are released for clubs for 8 days post championship. Hump it or lump it. Fine the fuck out of any county board that doesn’t enforce it. They won’t be long falling into place then. It should also be noted inter county managers are powerless and to my knowledge have no representation in croke park or in any of the councils.