Just reread your post, there’s so many layers to it that I’ll probably come back to it again and again.
In relation to your above point it think it’s gotten to a stage where some people will go to the trouble of creating arguments online just so they can spend hours on end spouting vitriol at others. It’s like the next stage of trolling - winding yourself up. It must be exhausting
Definitely. Easier to crib and complain and point fingers than it is to just get on with things and focusing on bettering yourself and creating a better world for yourself. Granted people can be batshit crazy in real life, but if people had to repeat out loud everything they type online, they’d quickly give their head a wobble.
However, some people are badly stuck in Plato’s cave.
But in a world where there’s no redemption or forgiveness , then individuals are in many respects held hostage and policed by the loudest in society. Cancel culture has instilled complete terror in society right the way up to national governments.Those that shout loudest about their oppressions and so called fairness are usually the ones that go after people’s lives and careers (for reasons previously outlined) Thus, the therapeutic society is actually a quite nasty society… and it’s all quite circular and self fuelling.
The separation of state and this new church is something that has to happen.
But i think a society with a strong homogeneous culture, that binds all sub cultures, is one part of the answer. When you look at the US, UK and even Oz… they are splintered to bits. While diversity has plenty of advantages, you need something that binds everyone together.
We’re not doing too bad in fairness. But we’re gas bastards oi oi … but the far right is growing all over Europe and in countries we’d regard as very liberal in years gone by. I think you need to look deeper than the bad actors like Putin, Trump , Musk yada, yada, yada… the problems in western societies are much deeper and these people are merely taking advantage.
When society is completely individualized then it’s easy manipulate. When the narcissists control the asylum…
It’s going to get very nasty in the uk if Nigel Farages reform party continues to make up ground. They’re already outpolling the tories and their whole raison d’etre is based around migration
From the outside it looks like there’s a civil war brewing in the UK. Farage and Tommy Robins et al are attracting huge numbers.
God guys like @flattythehurdler are fleeing the place
Without a homogeneous culture you dont have a flourishing society. You have a fractured society full of minorities (gay, black, trans, women, white, Cork, immigrant )that are constantly pitted against each other. It’s why the west is now eating itself. I didn’t make that commemt in an ‘arian pure white race’ way and apologies if it came across that way… my point was that we need to find a way to stop society splintering into our narcissistic oppressions and instead find our way back to something more binding which will restore a level of societal cohesion.
I was watching a bit of news on tv the other night and a bit on the failed Canadian PM, Trudeau, came on… in the footage they showed there was a BLM sign behind him and it got me thinking about the mentality behind the BLM movement and how it’s another prime example of this narcissistic slave morality that Nietzsche wrote about – what we call political correctness today (wokeness)
While everyone fully recognizes there are still racial inequalities embedded in the American system – the country has also come an awful long way. You could nearly say that on most metrics black people in America have it better then most black populations around the world. Obviously, there’s still pockets of third world poverty in some black communities but that’s not something black people in the US suffer alone. Some Native communities are worse than famine torn Ethiopia. Similar with white communities in the Appalachian region….
Anyway – while there’s a lot noble about the BLM movement it eventually boiled down to black people wanting reparations for being enslaved. It goes without saying that most rationale people are fundamentally against slavery and will agree that what the enslaved black population of America suffered…. But the topic is also very complex. Africans enslaved Africans and sold them to whites. Some blacks enslaved other blacks in America. And who arrived in America post emancipation? The simple fact is every country and civilization in the world practiced slavery at one point – there’s an estimated 10m slaves in Africa today that no one seems to give a fuck about……. Yet the BLM movement was eventually watered down to an oppression. My ancestors were enslaved and I cant succeed in life because of it and now you should pay me… absolute narcissism 101. When you think of the bravery of men like Stokely Carmichael and Malcom X - the shame these BLM people bring on their great names.
Now – you’ll remember from previous posts how a lot of this okey dokey wokey blokey stuff is meaning and morality turned inwards and the pursuit of ever-growing oppressions… a lot of these okey dokey wokey blokey white types – lads like @glasagusban and @Turenne who listen to rap so think they have an affinity with African Americans — well this cohort were aghast at this BLM craic. They were being out oppressed and worse again – their skin colour meant they were now in the oppressor’s gang… So how could they take back this oppression and make it their own…… they have ceremonies where groups of white people knelt and asked groups of black people for forgiveness for more or less being white - this is true – tonnes of these recorded all over youtube…. It’s beyond fucked up in one way. But when you frame it as I’ve done in the opening post it actually makes complete sense. If you aren’t on-board with these ever growing and bizarre oppressions, then you are attacked and cancelled…. This is why the end goal is insanity, eventually you have to embrace oppressions that are so far out there, you lose you mind.