American Mass Shootings / Stabbings / Car Crashes/bridge collapses

They definitely need to brain scan immigrants before they let them in. They should start with the Irish

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Imagine they do manage to link this to ISIS. That would illicit some very different responses you’d imagine

When did your fascination with African Americans begin? Would this be common enough in cork?

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I think I have waited the requisite time before posting this.

https://youtu.be/ui0EgRsFVN8

Mate, Turenne is black.

They wouldn’t be talking about brain scans that’s for sure. They don’t even want to let Muslims enter the country but they refuse to consider making the purchase of a light machine gun slightly more difficult.

This was the Trump supporter reddit page yesterday.

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From what I heard on the radio this morning, it would appear you are wrong on this?

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Holy shit. That’s actually scary. It reminds me of a discussion I had with a Septic after Sandy Hook and he genuinely believed that arming the teachers and possibly the children was the answer, rather than less guns. There really is no arguing or debating with that logic.

The right wingers started with the mental health thing a few years back as their new deflection strategy. There are mentally ill people everywhere of course but perhaps the difference is they don’t have access to machines guns everywhere else.

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Would the Constitution permit a restriction on the right of psychopaths to bear arms?

Yeah but the thing is that it’s kind of demeaning to even argue this point, it’s like arguing with a child. More guns = more gun killings, less guns = less gun killings. This is self-evident but even this will not be accepted by these nuts. Whatabout 9/11, etc will be the default response.

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Like some comedian said but in a funnier way

One shoe bomb attempt and shoes off at airports

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The right wing nut jobs (RWNJs) are constantly moaning about “thought control” and yet are now calling for compulsory brain scans.

Hmmmm.

“We care about mental health though”

The state with the ten strongest gun laws according to their Brady score in 2014. Beside that I’ve placed their ranking in deaths by firearm per 100,000 people in 2013. (I used 2013 and 2014 numbers as they were easily accessible on t’internet).
So ranked by strictest gun laws, with 1 being strictest, state name, rank by gun deaths per population lowest to highest.

  1. California. 9
  2. Connecticut. 4
  3. Massachusetts. 2
  4. New Jersey. 6
  5. New York. 3
  6. Hawaii. 1
  7. Maryland. 15
  8. Rhode Island. 5
  9. Delaware. 20
  10. Illinois. 11

So of the states with the ten strictest gun laws, 7 feature in the bottom ten by gun deaths per population. And Illinois is just one outside it.
States in the bottom ten of deaths by state but not in the ten strictest by Brady law,

  1. Minnessota. 8
  2. Iowa. 10
  3. New Hampshire. 7

So 10/10 of the lowest deaths are in states with the top 15 strictest gun laws. All ten states with the strictest gun laws feature in the bottom 20 by deaths.

Now ten laxest gun law states.
50. Arizona. 37
49. Alaska. 50
48. Wyoming. 46
47. Louisiana. 49
46. Montana. 45
45. Arkansas. 44
44. Virginia. 18
43. Kentucky. 35
42. Florida. 31
41. Nevada. 36

So 5 of the states with laxest gun laws are in the bottom ten for gun deaths per population.
Of the ten in bottom by deaths, but not in the bottom by Brady ranking.

38 Mississippi. 47.
36 New Mexico. 41.
35 Alabama. 48
33 Oklahoma. 43.
27 Tennessee. 42.

So 9/10 of the highest deaths are in states with the bottom twenty strictest gun laws. All are in the bottom 25. Virginia is an outlier the other way, with an unusually low death rate for its low levels of gun control.

Now I’m no fancy big city statistician but maybe stricter gun laws might just result in lower deaths per 100,000 of population.

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This Shooting Isn’t About Gun Control We Refuse To Pass, It’s About Access To Mental Health Care We’re Continuing To Gut

Paul Ryan

As our nation struggles to come to grips with the horrible tragedy in Las Vegas, it’s only natural for people to search for an explanation of how an atrocity like this could have happened and to call on their elected officials to take measures to prevent such terrible bloodshed from occurring again in the future. Unfortunately, however, we’ve seen enough of these incidents to know that some people will rush to blame firearms for this carnage and will demand that Congress enact sweeping gun restrictions, engaging in misguided efforts that completely miss the underlying reasons behind the violence we’re seeing.

The simple truth is, mass shootings like this aren’t about gun control we refuse to pass. They’re about access to mental health care that we will continue to gut.

You can already hear the calls from the left. In the aftermath of this mass murder, millions of people are once again pushing for an assault weapons ban that I won’t allow lawmakers to give even a moment of consideration, let alone bring to a vote. If these folks actually examined the realities of the issue, they would see that the real culprit in these incidents is, and always has been, our country’s inadequate mental healthcare system that leaves troubled, potentially violent individuals without the support they need, and which my colleagues and I have spent most of our careers seeking, often successfully, to defund.

The reason we have tragedies like this is because of how our healthcare system that I am dead set on undermining fails to serve Americans in desperate need of psychological treatment. Not because of a lack of gun ownership regulations, the slightest toughening of which will never even receive a single second of debate on the floor of the House on my watch.

Case in point, I’ve seen commentators cite the GOP bill to loosen restrictions on silencers that is currently making its way through Congress as contributing to an environment where these shootings will continue to occur, an erroneous line of reasoning that completely ignores how our party’s many active attempts to repeal Obamacare would make it significantly harder, if not impossible, for millions of unwell individuals to visit mental health specialists and receive the treatment necessary to keep their erratic behavior in check.

If we as a nation are really serious about preventing future tragedies, we shouldn’t focus on regulating so-called gun sale loopholes and outlawing high-capacity magazines, the very mention of which will elicit an overwhelming and immediate nullifying response should it be breathed on the floor of the House. Instead, we need to pay attention to the fact that many people with treatable mental illnesses struggle to afford medication or therapy, and then work around the clock to ensure that their meager options only dwindle further and become more expensive. That is where we need to be focused as a nation.

If we’re going to get anywhere, we must see this problem for what it truly is: a nationwide mental health crisis that my policies have allowed to metastasize and that I am working continuously to exacerbate. Not some issue of who can and can’t buy guns, all legislation about which I, along with the powerful resources of supportive lobbyists, have suppressed with exceptional efficiency.

Because as easy as it is to blame this unconscionable loss of human life on background check laws designed to maximize the profits of the gun industry at the expense of public safety, the real fault lies with healthcare legislation designed to maximize insurance industry profits at the expense of public safety.

Remember, it’s not guns we’ve deliberately removed all barriers to owning that kill people. It’s people to whom we continually deny basic care that kill people.

Yeah but what about 9/11?

They went so mental after 9/11 a fella can’t even bring a bottle of water through airport security.

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