What about a chicken with a beer can up his arse?
Why are you trying to downplay the statistics?
There were well over 13.000 non-suicide gun deaths in 2015, and over 15,000 in 2016.
Pro-gun ideology in the US is just fine with that.
A toddler shoots somebody more than once a week.
Are these toddlers mentally ill?
Why donāt you tell us, because you clearly have an opinion on it, and given the rest of what youāve written, the unavoidable conclusion is that you believe itās something inherent to ethnic minorities, ie. itās a racial problem, which I can tell now is absolute bollocks.
Itās because whites tend to be less socio-economically disadvantaged than ethnic minorities. Thatās generally the way crime works.
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Thatās a fucking magnificent post.
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Stick up a few graphics there.
Even better!
To be someone must be a wonderful thing
A famous footballer a rock singer
Or a big film star, yes I think I would like that
To be rich and have lots of fans
Have lots of girls to prove that Iām a man
And be No. 1, and liked by everyone
Getting drugged up with my trendy friends
They really dig me and I dig them
And the bread I spend, is like my fame, itās quickly diminished
And thereās no more swimming in a guitar shaped pool
No more reporters at my beck and call
No more cocaine itās only ground chalk
No more taxis now weāll have to walk
But didnāt we have a nice time,
Didnāt we have a nice time
Oh wasnāt it such a fine time
I realize I should have stuck to my guns
Instead shit out to be one of the bastard sons
And lose myself, I know it was wrong, but itās cost me a lot
And thereās no more drinking after the club shuts down,
Iām out on me ass with the rest of the clowns
Itās really frightening without a bodyguard
So I stay confined to my lonely room
Anybody know what percentage of bad guys with guns are stopped by good guys with guns?
Antifa, ISIS, and YPG teamed up to kill country fans, according to Infowars.
The sheeple canāt handle the real truth. Yeah.
Thats something Iāve always wondered. When do these 2nd Amendment protectors, these modern day frontiersmen with their millitary grade weapons and open carry allowances fire back to prevent these psycopathic and probably racial monority types from committing these mass shootings? Or is whitey too shit scared?
Wonder no more.
According to the FBI, in 160 āactive shooterā incidents between 2010 and 2013, just five incidents (3%) were stopped by civilians with a gun.
Four of these were stopped by armed security guards.
Precisely 1 (one) incident out of 160 was stopped by a random passer by with a gun.
A much higher 13% of these incidents were stopped by unarmed civilians.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mike-weisser/fbi-report-active-shooters_b_5900748.html
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Itās fuckin insane,I was listening to this mental case for a while yesterday.Talk about insane,this fella definitely needs a brain scan.
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8 likes and 2 tea in mugs. Well done, sadly your grade stays at an F, which says a lot about the simpletons giving you likes.
There is no whataboutery going on, there is simply my pointing out that raw data and information are different things, and without intelligent analysis, one is led to false conclusions. I pointed out two flaws in your original analysis, murder rates by ethnic groups and suicides. You chose to include one in your revision, but ignore the other (which is far more significant). You are conflating gun deaths and murders, which has led you down a path to a nonsensical conclusion.
Letās get suicide out of the way first. Twice as many people kill themselves using a gun in the US than murder someone with a gun. This is where the ethnicity factor is most significant, 77% of white gun deaths are suicides, 19% are homicides, while 14% of black gun deaths are suicides and 82% homicides. I am sure you will argue that guns and lax gun laws are causing all these suicides, but you would be wrong (again). The suicide rate in the US at 12.6/100,000 is similar to other developed countries (Ireland is 11.1, Sweden 12.7, France 12.3, Belgium 16.1, etc.). The sad conclusion is people who decide to kill themselves find a way.
For your analysis to make any sense, you simply have to look at gun homicides. You conveniently left out DC from both your posts because of course it blows your argument out of the water and makes mine. DC has a 50% black population, five times the national average, and a gun homicide rate of 24.1 Here are the top 5 by gun homicide rate and percentage black population.
- Washington DC: 24.1, 50.1%
- Louisiana, 10.3, 32.4%
- Mississippi, 8.7, 37.3%
- Maryland, 8.6, 30.1%
- Missouri, 8.3, 11.5%
Here are the bottom 5:
- New Hampshire,1.1, 1.2%
- Hawaii, 1.3, 3.1%
- Vermont, 1.6, 0.9%
- Maine, 1.7, 0.7%
- Utah, 1.8, 1.3%
Your gun laws argument make absolutely no difference to these statistics and their obvious conclusions, but do go ahead and run the numbers again to further prove your level of simpleton.
Imagine having a cancerous tumour, and your oncologist is a member of the NRA.
They tell you you need to improve your diet and get more exercise and that will solve things.
You suggest to them that maybe they might give you treatment that removes or kills the cancer cells instead.
āNo, no, definitely notā, says the oncologist.
āThatās far too simplistic.ā
Well, Iām glad youāve moved on from guns and their availability being the primary reason for the high levels of gun homicides in the US. Now that we have that out of the way, we could perhaps move on to discuss why blacks kill each other at a rate 8X that of whites and 4X that of Hispanics.
I suspect though thatās a conversation outside your level of thinking, as already you have played the racist card. Contrary to what others have said here, there is no debate of this topic in the US, as it is politically incorrect to do so.
The answer to the question I posed and you are now posing, is indeed related to poverty levels, but more significantly that successive government actions over the past 5 decades have resulted in a complete breakdown of the family in black communities and a spiraling increase in crime and poverty. Attempts by mainly Democrats to āsolveā the problem of poverty and crime in black communities have had the opposite effect.
Itās actually very similar to the problems with North African immigrants in Paris and Brussels, or indeed poor areas in urban Ireland Ireland. Packing poor people into ghettos and throwing welfare at them hasnāt had a good outcome wherever itās tried. Education and job opportunities are the only solution to poverty and crime.
Wasnāt there a sketch by Monty Python or someone about the Ministry of the Bleeding Obvious?
Of course.
And nothing at all to do with the availability of guns. Never the guns.
Your consistent focussing on the murder rate among blacks in the aftermath of a mass shooting carried out by a white man against other whites seems very much to be unashamedly playing the racist card to me.
Would that be the poverty that Republican policies have caused and continue to cause, by the way?
I have said repeatedly said I am in favor of stricter gun laws, including a total ban on semi automatic and automatic weapons, but continue on with your standard debating tactics of arguing against something you imagine somebody said and calling everyone a racist who disagrees with you.
Mass killings are a problem in the US, but the larger problem is the overall homicide rate. No innocent person should be murdered, period, regardless of their race or level of wealth/poverty.
Republican and Democratic policies have led to increased levels of poverty and crime in all disadvantaged communities, black communities obviously the worst hit. After 8 years of Obama, blacks are significantly worse off than they were. Education and job opportunities are the only way out of poverty, which is where the focus needs to be and sadly isnāt. Itās much easier to give people welfare checks and food stamps and hope they solve the problem themselves.
Seems like youāve changed your tune, because you argued before on this thread against gun control
If you believe the overall homicide rate is the problem, well, guns in general are the problem, as over two-thirds of all homicides in the US are gun homicides.