Are you asking me
A) is seeding a draw an advantage; or
B) is seeding the All-Ireland qualifier draw so no Ulster teams can be drawn against each other until the latest possible opportunity an advantage?
If both A and B are incorrect please outline your exact fantasy draw proposal. Thanks,
Juhniallio
Iâm asking you is the Provincial System an advantage to certain counties over others?
If so then why is it unfair to attempt to remedy that imbalance through the qualifiers.
Look at the World Cup, qualifiers are done via different confederations but the groups stage is drawn so as to avoid teams who came through the same confederation from meeting in the group stage* in order to remedy any potential imbalance in the qualifying structures.
*As much as is possible in a numbers sense.
What Iâm suggesting is a similar system be put in place, but you seem to reckon that it would be advantageous to certain teams but donât think that provincial system which it aims to counteract in the first place is advantageous. If one is advantageous then so it the other, if it is not then neither is the other. What seems to be the issue here is you donât like level playing fields, you like to have the balance skewed in your favour before anything starts.
quit dodging the question juhniallio
Thank you for clarifying. No.
And for confirmation, I do like even playing fields. I also like the balance skewed in my favour before anything starts, particularly if there is money riding on it. These positions are not mutually exclusive.
Itâs 30 mins since Mac asked you a very simple question on a thread of immediate importance to him. My response time to Nimby when he finally asked a coherent question was a wholly acceptable 12mins. If only you could live your own life as you preach to others.
Also, youâre moving through the pet kingdom like a beastial slut. Whatâll it be next, a goat?
Then why would you have issues with it being reversed?
Thatâs a clamping right there. This TSG cunt thinks the world waits for him. Flights for Mac and his clan have probably gone up a grand waiting for TSG to give an answer. Sickening carry on.
Because I think the current system is fine and that your reasons for wanting change are ridiculous. And selfish. It reeks of the 'gimme gimme, gimme attitude I expect from some 6 county Ulstermen.
I know. It wouldnât surprise me if the delay was so that TSC was able to book his own flights while Mac waited in good faith for an honest answer. Add it to his hatred/use of small animals and it paints a disgusting picture of a desperate man. Despicable.
My reasons to reverse a predetermined draw is self-preserving? Why is that? You said yourself you donât think itâs an advantage. Whatâs the real reason?
Not self preserving. Selfish. They are different. This is not the first time(see functioning/competitive earlier).
You are deliberately refusing to believe the reasons I supplied. Iâm not sure why. Quite possibly because you hate the feeling that your losing a debate but donât know what to do so you keep shouting âitâs not fair, itâs not fairâ. I have excellent experience in dealing with this type of argument. No Rice cake and a shorter story than usual for you tonight chap.
You have tried your best to evade a question. You seem to think youâre a lot smarter than you are.
As I said Ulster is the only functioning provincial competition out there. There is no opposition in Leinster, Dublin bucketing their way to 27 point victories, what was it in Connacht? 25 points? Munster is generally a case of Cork and Kerry where Cork have their bellies tickled in the final and roll over.
Ulster is the only province that functions, itâs actually a contest, itâs not just having to turn up and get a trophy.
You donât think Ulster teams are at a disadvantage because they are exposed to the pure knockout of the competition much earlier? But at the same time you donât want the provincial format reversed in the qualifiers? Now why would that be? If you donât think itâs an advantage the other provinces then surely it wouldnât bother you if the qualifier system was used to reverse the provincial format, at the end of the day the teams who enter the qualifiers are there via their province. Why shouldnât we seek to now redress the system that dictated their route by means or reversing them?
I think itâs quite obvious here that it brings a huge sense of fear out of you and others and itâs more telling that you canât offer a reasonable rejection tot that format other than you think 27 points and 25 points victories are the hallmarks of functioning provincial championships.
I play this forum like a chess board and itâs checkmate to me.
Evaded the question? I gave you a reasoned answer which you didnât understand so you demanded a yes/no answer. Your goat-bothering sidekick even jumped in to help you out. I answered no. You now seem to think that this doesnât count as an answer. Iâm not sure why.
Your second point seems to be an ill-informed rant based on your standard presumption of everyone elseâs opinion of this matter ( I donât believe this to be a fair reflection of their opinions merely the cause you accuse people of).
So here goes.
I think the Provincial system is equally fair/unfair for all teams. Dublin get no real test and then shit themselves in their first decent game which happens to be a knock out. Thatâs not fair. The Ulster championship/ qualifiers were a great disadvantage to Donegal this year as they were bolloxed, but that may well have happened anyway as they are a team who had been on the road for a long time and are a small enough squad quality-wise. The Ulster Championship/qualifiers were a huge advantage to Tyrone as the got a great run of handy draws to get them to a semi-final. So itâs swings and roundabouts for all. The only thing that I think is unfair is that the beaten finalists in the provincial championships are sometimes out the following week where they are more often than not well beaten. This happens far too often for it to be just chance so I think the only change made should be to ensure that in those cases they get at least two weeks before their next game.
I think itâs absurd to suggest that change should happen to reverse perceived disadvantages of the Ulster Championship. By all means advocate for change based on an âI think it should be like this for allâ basis but jumping up and down in your bedroom typing âanswer the questionâ as fast as you can is no reason.
Finally, you do play this forum like a chess board, but it seems you play chess like every other thing you play, like a whingy, adhd child who is jealous of all the big boys and shouts weird things at them from time to time. No bedtime story tonight precious.
So you openly admit youâre only looking at it from one countyâs perspective? A county who the qualifiers are an irrelevance to seeing as theyâve only entered once in about 10 years and regularly hockey anyone in their province.
The fact that Dublin have a safe passage to the last every year benefits them. As much as you might like to mislead, no county wants to be playing straight knockout football in June. But thatâs just a reality for teams in Ulster.
Itâs not really fair that 4 teams from the top two Divisions are guaranteed in the hat for the first round of qualifiers from Ulster. And then have the double whammy of potentially drawing each other in a knockout game in June.
You donât want to acknowledge that all. All my proposal seeks to do is reverse any perceived unfairness in the provincial system. I think itâs clear why you donât want it - fear of the Ulster teams. Youâdonât rather have us take care of each other than arriving primed for Croke Park in August.
Tell me how such a draw would be unfair on teams from the other 3 provinces?
No I donât admit that. I completely refute that. I think if you read my post again (without deciding what Iâve said before you read it) youâll see my biggest bugbear is the treatment of losing provincial finalists. All 4 of them. I picked 3 high profile examples of other counties to illustrate my point that the systems as it stands has advantages and disadvantages for all teams.
I didnât bother reading the rest of your post as it was the fantasy argument youâve come up for something I didnât say. Carry on.
I ground my arguments in fact and logic.
You have failed to offer any reason how this proposed system would be a disadvantage for the other 3 provinces.
Now where have i heard that before. Youâre like a dog thatâs been shown a magic trick. You donât understand and repeat a previous accusation.
Heâd be a great ball boy.
When i see that pot noodles ad i think of nimby
Was listening to the podcast Balls did down in Bellaghy with Canavan, McConville, Eamonn McGee and Danny Quinn.
They came up with the following Ulster XV to beat Dublin:
4 Donegal and Monaghan
3 Tyrone
2 Armagh
1 Fermanagh and Derry
Iâd go with the following
5 Tyrone
4 Donegal
2 Derry
1 Armagh, Cavan, Down and Monaghan