Another one of those fucking Ulster football threads - don't let the first post fool you

Because you deem them to be stronger teams and wish for them to play weaker teams.

And you consider teams being being kept apart favouritism. So obviously keeping them apart would be an advantage( in your eyes).

If it would be an advantage then the Provincial system would be a disadvantage, either way they cancel each other out.

What’s your issue with that?

They would have to dump provincials for that i feel.

Unless it decided which comp you were in it may become a waste of time.

CL works because there is home and away. This wouldn’t work.

It is poor logic. For example raping someone and then not raping someone else would not cancel each other out.

Poor analogy.

It was worthy of your logic on this thread.

‘Because I want it to be that way’ is not a good argument.

You haven’t been able to articulate a good reason for that system not to work.

Why should an unfair draw or a draw perceived to be unfair be given the chance of being repeated in the qualifiers? What’s your problem with it? Where is the advantage?

Here’s the reason again, copy and pasted. Read it. get back to me if you don’t comprehend it.

But Ulster teams are of middle ranking. Why would they be afforded an advantage as a group? Maybe if one team performs to a certain level continuously they should gain an advantage of seeding, a la coefficients(the period could be determined by the GAA but I’d imagine they’d follow the old baker’s rule and plump for a 12 year period-everyone knows that makes sense). That is a position I can understand.
But you seem to wish to gain advantage for your provincial teams because of some imagined group strength. Imagine a situation where Ireland got a better seeding in playoffs because our group had Germany in it for the euro qualifiers and was therefore ‘harder’. It’s bizarre.

You’re being evasive and belligerent.

Is it an advantage or not? Simple question that requires a simple answer?

The collective hammering bomber has taken is simply amazing.

You have to admire the endurance.

Sadly Ulster teams don’t have the same endurance in the qualifiers due to injuries, suspensions, fatigue and fighting a war.

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You forgot the southern media bias as well. :slight_smile:

The Holocaust?

Ulster has a right to self-defence. Ulster has a right to exist.

There are those who don’t know when they’re beaten and there are those who never look like they will be beaten. I’m the latter.

Traits you certainly recognise. You certainly believe it to be an advantage, as you believe it fixes the current ‘disadvantage’ your Ulster teams suffer. I think you’re argument is deeply flawed in that you champion Ulster’s supposed lack of favouritism in it’s own championship but decry it in the qualifiers. You seek advantage for a random group of middle achieving counties for no reason other than they are roughly as good as their neighbours but consistently below the best. Not shit, not great, give us some freebies you free state cunts. The Ulster way!

By the way, I do think it’s ridiculous that Donegal had to play a qualifier against Tyrone this year. I think it fucked up their chances a bit. It would make sense for the Ulster champions to be seeded the following year in my view.

I asked you a simple question which you continue to evade.

Is it an advantage or not?

The Ulster Championship is the only functioning Provincial Championship - it’s not it that needs change.

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I’ve answered your question 3 or 4 times pal. It’s not my fault you don’t understand more complex responses than yes or no.

All 4 provincial championships function perfectly well, they select a champion and provide teams for the qualifiers in various rounds. You’ve confused the word functioning with competititive. They’re not even similar.

No, you’ve evaded giving a straight answer, you’ve been deliberately evasive from the outset because you know if say it’s an advantage then you’re openly admitting Ulster teams are being disadvantaged in the current system and if you say it’s not an advantage then you have no justifiable reason to reject.

So what is it? An advantage or not?