Australian Open 2016

Fed’s outclassed but also hitting a lot of unforced errors to aid this capitulation.

Not yet but he is getting close to it. I think he is on 12 slams at the moment. If he does grand slam he will be up there with the greats.

Its because he is trying too hard to create something that will put Djokovic on the back foot.

Federer is certainly a distant 3 when it comes to ranking the top players of this generation. He has hardly won anything since Nadal adjusted from a clay specialist and Djokovic came into his prime.

He has only won 4 grand slams since 2008. The French one has a huge asterisk beside it as he didn’t have to beat Nadal as well.

He’s on 10, but he’s so far ahead of the rest, injury permitting he has the next 2-3 years to himself.

Be interesting to see how he tailors his diary ahead of Paris. Last year he played (and won) Miami, Indian Wells, Monte Carlo and Rome. He possibly paid too much respect and put too much effort then into Nadal quarter final, when Nadal was nowhere near the level of his prime years. He looked jaded against both Murray in the semi final and Stan in the final.

I don’t think the number of tournaments he played on the way to the french open hampered him. I think he just put all his energies into beating Nadal at the french and like a lot of the roasters on here are fond of saying Wawrinka was waiting in the long grass.

Indian Wells and Miami are played in March. Rome finishes a week before the french starts so there is plenty of time for rest.

The crowd are gas at the Australian Open going nuts at every point Federer wins. :slightly_smiling:

Strange. The Serbian Australians are one of the largest Serb diaspora communities in the world.

It’s the same everywhere Federer goes, the cardigan wearing tennis toffs love Federer. He has that elitist, patronising aura about him that resonates with them. Basically he’s a wanker just like they are.

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it was vile when I saw him in Brissy.

Playing a guy that won fuck all and the whole place up for “Roger”

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Murray and Raonic are 1 set each. Raonic has stepped up this year, it looks like he put in plenty of work during the close season. If he keeps his form up I would expect to see him breaking into the top 5, with that serve of his he is a dangerous player for the top players to come up against.

Still I would expect Murray to beat him today.

Gone to a 5th set. Pity Raonic is injured and is struggling.

Muzza has a break already. Red rover.,

3-0 now. Raonic was giving Murray a good game until he got injured towards the end of the 4th set. Hard to know if he would have beat him.

Federer was 27 when he won the US Open in 2008. Its good going to be winning 4 Grand Slams at such a venerable age for a tennis player. McEnroe won his last Slam at 25, Edberg at 26, Borg at 25. Becker had won 5 of his 6 Slams when he was still only 23.

Nadal has only won one Grand Slam since 2013 (when he was 27), the French Open in 2014, a week after turning 28.

Federer won most of his titles when there was a vacuum with Sampras retiring/on the wane and before Nadal, Djokovic, Murray etc reached their peak form.

Since 2008, the year since Nadal won his first non clay slam and Djokovic won his first slam - the grand slam count has been:

Nadal 11
Djokovic 10
Federer 5
Murray 2
Wawrinka 2
Cilic 1
Del Potro 1

Federer was successful because most of his titles came in an uncompetitive era. When Nadal and Djokovic came along and redefined the level tennis was played at Federer has been found badly wanting.

Horseshit. You can say the same about any era in any sport where one team or individual dominates. Bottom line is this, your hero Nadal won most of his Grand Slams in France. And has been said here many times before, the French Open is for fags.

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Federer is 5 years older than Nadal, 6 years older than Djokovic. In tennis terms that’s almost different era. It was much the same with Connors and McEnroe.

I don’t think tennis has ever been as uncompetitive as it has been for the last 10/15 years. The likes of Berdych, Tsonga, Ferrer and Gasquet all around the 30 mark/early 30’s still in the top 10 tells its own story. I don’t know who the next big star/dominant player is going to be. If its Dimitrov, Thien, Tomic, Goffin or Kyrgios they’d want to hurry up. Tennis seems now to have gone the same way as boxing in the US its traditional powerhouse and is all put dead there.

Incorrect, the French Open requires the most complete game to win. It nullified the one dimensional big servers. How far did Mark Philippoussis ever make it at Roland Garros?

You are raging because you are one of the cardigan wearing toff brigade who couldn’t hack it when Nadal utterly destroyed and finished Federer as a top level tennis player.

Nadal and Djokovic have been where it’s at, they have operated and Djokovic continues to do so at a level Federer never achieved. He took the easy titles when there was no competition, when chumps like Safin, Hewitt, Nalbandian and Roddick were the best if the rest.

Federer beat Djokovic in the final of the US Open in 2007, semi final in 2008 & 09. He beat him en route to winning Australia in 2007 and at Wimbledon in the Championship semi final of 2012. Federer stopped Djokovic winning the Grand Slam in 2011 taking him out in the semi final at Roland Garros. The score in Grand Slam meetings between Federer and Djokovic prior to Federer turning 30 was 5-2 to Federer. Novak has really only had the measure of him this last year or two once Federer hit his mid 30’s.

Why are you including incidents in 2007?

Is your argument to the facts I presented that weak?