Bookmakers and general Money Laundering on the Dark Web

[fenwaypark]

Massive fines for those not complying.

[BruidheanChaorthainn]

@fenwaypark

Massive fines for those not complying.

I thought it was quite sad for Alan Potts who spent his life as a full time punter and the “affordability checks” wouldn’t acknowledge money made from betting.

Pp restricting accounts because you know a little on racing but allow you have a tenner on a football game is crazy.

Pubs or restaurants can end up in court if they refuse customers.

[fenwaypark]

The affordability checks are a gift to bookies. They can get rid of smart punters and keep the recreational punters, which is the cash cow.

[BruidheanChaorthainn]

@fenwaypark

The affordability checks are a gift to bookies. They can get rid of smart punters and keep the recreational punters, which is the cash cow.

A totally independent regulator where a bookmaker could report a customer if they are giving off signs would be ok and said regulator could carry out checks would be fair.

Handing over your bank statements to god knows who in paddy power is nothing to do with helping addicts.

What’s app bookmakers or whatever else are so prevalent nowadays mean they don’t really work anyway.

[Mac]

@Godshonesttruth

@BruidheanChaorthainn

You’ve already shown you don’t know much about affordability checks when you tried to claim they weren’t in operation

Sorry mate, but you’ve drawn me back in here. Affordability checks are not in place in Ireland. The gambling bill which was supposed to address this issue was first drafted in 2012, but still hasnt been enacted. Bookmakers here are not legally obliged to carry out affordability checks and do not carry them out. Please cite legislation or articles to the contrary.

I see he’s ignored this one again when pressed for some facts

[BruidheanChaorthainn]

@Mac

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@BruidheanChaorthainn

You’ve already shown you don’t know much about affordability checks when you tried to claim they weren’t in operation

Sorry mate, but you’ve drawn me back in here. Affordability checks are not in place in Ireland. The gambling bill which was supposed to address this issue was first drafted in 2012, but still hasnt been enacted. Bookmakers here are not legally obliged to carry out affordability checks and do not carry them out. Please cite legislation or articles to the contrary.

I see he’s ignored this one again when pressed for some facts
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There’s no regulation in Britain either and yet there’s affordability checks but of course you are so stupid it’s not even worth pointing out. like you know bookmakers actually saying they are carrying out affordability checks was highlighted to you and still wasn’t enough for you realise they are happening so there isn’t much point going any further.

[Mac]

@BruidheanChaorthainn

There’s no regulation in Britain either and yet there’s affordability checks but of course you are so stupid it’s not even worth pointing out. like you know bookmakers actually saying they are carrying out affordability checks was highlighted to you and still wasn’t enough for you realise they are happening so there isn’t much point going any further.

So you still have no examples of it happening in Ireland then is what you’re saying? We keep asking you about Ireland and you keep talking about Britain

[BruidheanChaorthainn]

@Mac

@BruidheanChaorthainn

There’s no regulation in Britain either and yet there’s affordability checks but of course you are so stupid it’s not even worth pointing out. like you know bookmakers actually saying they are carrying out affordability checks was highlighted to you and still wasn’t enough for you realise they are happening so there isn’t much point going any further.

So you still have no examples of it happening in Ireland then is what you’re saying? We keep asking you about Ireland and you keep talking about Britain

I posted you an example of an Irish operator discussing
Carrying out affordability checks and why he was doing so and you ignored it because you’re clueless and can never admit when you are wrong.

You haven’t a breeze but it won’t stop you going around in circles clutching at straws.

[Mac]

A licenced Irish operator was it?

[Godshonesttruth]

@BruidheanChaorthainn

A totally independent regulator where a bookmaker could report a customer if they are giving off signs would be ok and said regulator could carry out checks would be fair.

Handing over your bank statements to god knows who in paddy power is nothing to do with helping addicts.

What’s app bookmakers or whatever else are so prevalent nowadays mean they don’t really work anyway.

It’s well known mate that bookies have profited from criminality. People who have no employment, yet are spending 1000s in bookies, who lap it up. There are plenty of other cases where people remortgaged their houses to gamble away their only asset. Then there are people who stole from employers to fund their addiction. People who spent their life savings. People who spent their weekly wages. It has been take take by the bookies, nothing to see here and you still can’t see the merit in affordability checks.

[BruidheanChaorthainn]

@Godshonesttruth

@BruidheanChaorthainn

A totally independent regulator where a bookmaker could report a customer if they are giving off signs would be ok and said regulator could carry out checks would be fair.

Handing over your bank statements to god knows who in paddy power is nothing to do with helping addicts.

What’s app bookmakers or whatever else are so prevalent nowadays mean they don’t really work anyway.

It’s well known mate that bookies have profited from criminality. People who have no employment, yet are spending 1000s in bookies, who lap it up. There are plenty of other cases where people remortgaged their houses to gamble away their only asset. Then there are people who stole from employers to fund their addiction. People who spent their life savings. People who spent their weekly wages. It has been take take by the bookies, nothing to see here and you still can’t see the merit in affordability checks.

So your trusting people who allowed people to remortgage their houses to bet to then carry out affordability checks

You honestly think paddy power are going to carry out an affordability check on some lad
Who’s losing a pile of money to them?

Lols you know less than I ever gave you credit for.

[Godshonesttruth]

@BruidheanChaorthainn

So your trusting people who allowed people to remortgage their houses to bet to then carry out affordability checks

You honestly think paddy power are going to carry out an affordability check on some lad
Who’s losing a pile of money to them?

Lols you know less than I ever gave you credit for.

Honestly mate, you’re even more clueless than I had given you credit for. Of course the affordability checks would prevent this. It’s quiet simple. If the legislation is enacted then the bookie will have to legally satisfy himself that their client can afford to lose. If the punter has remortgaged the house to bet, the bookie will not be allowed to accept his bets. Similarly, if someone is betting a far greater percentage of their weekly salary, then they will not be allowed place these stakes. These are good measures to prevent the ruination of gambling addicts.

[BruidheanChaorthainn]

@Godshonesttruth

@BruidheanChaorthainn

So your trusting people who allowed people to remortgage their houses to bet to then carry out affordability checks

You honestly think paddy power are going to carry out an affordability check on some lad
Who’s losing a pile of money to them?

Lols you know less than I ever gave you credit for.

Honestly mate, you’re even more clueless than I had given you credit for. Of course the affordability checks would prevent this. It’s quiet simple. If the legislation is enacted then the bookie will have to legally satisfy himself that their client can afford to lose. If the punter has remortgaged the house to bet, the bookie will not be allowed to accept his bets. Similarly, if someone is betting a far greater percentage of their weekly salary, then they will not be allowed place these stakes. These are good measures to prevent the ruination of gambling addicts.

Sure there’s been affordability checks for 2 years now and bookmakers profits when up.

You haven’t a clue what you’re talking about as per usual.

[BruidheanChaorthainn]

And worse you’d trust one of the bookmakers
Who are basically
Masquerading as online casinos to carry out checks.

Bin off free bets, bog and various other offers which are designed to hook punters if they are so worried.

Pp and boyles know everyone’s name in a shop if they win a few quid they could do the same if they were losing a few quid as well.

[Godshonesttruth]

@BruidheanChaorthainn

Sure there’s been affordability checks for 2 years now and bookmakers profits when up.

You haven’t a clue what you’re talking about as per usual.

Mac and I have asked you to cite what big players in Ireland are carrying out these affordability checks and you’ve come up with nothing, but bluster, spoofery and insults.

[BruidheanChaorthainn]

@Godshonesttruth

@BruidheanChaorthainn

Sure there’s been affordability checks for 2 years now and bookmakers profits when up.

You haven’t a clue what you’re talking about as per usual.

Mac and I have asked you to cite what big players in Ireland are carrying out these affordability checks and you’ve come up with nothing, but bluster, spoofery and insults.

I did and you ignored them.

I’ll post them up again when you log back into the bookinsiders account.

Insults? You were the same individual who tried to insinuate another poster had a gambling indication because he posted up a lucky 15 on your beloved equine thread.

Don’t you be lecturing anybody about insults.

[Godshonesttruth]

@BruidheanChaorthainn

I did and you ignored them.

I’ll post them up again when you log back into the bookinsiders account.

Insults? You were the same individual who tried to insinuate another poster had a gambling indication because he posted up a lucky 15 on your beloved equine thread.

Don’t you be lecturing anybody about insults.

Please list the bookmakers that are carrying out affordability checks in Ireland. I know for a fact that none of the big players do. I never insulted anyone on here about a lucky 15 and have nothing to do with these other posters, despite your protestations.

[fenwaypark]

Is restricting accounts that lose x not better? If bookies restricted losing accounts with same vigour as winning acounts, it would protect problem gamblers better.

[BruidheanChaorthainn]

@fenwaypark

Is restricting accounts that lose x not better? If bookies restricted losing accounts with same vigour as winning acounts, it would protect problem gamblers better.

These are the same bookmakers that desperately lobbied against the removal of credit cards for online accounts and the same with limits on fobts in shops.

[Godshonesttruth]

@fenwaypark

Is restricting accounts that lose x not better? If bookies restricted losing accounts with same vigour as winning acounts, it would protect problem gamblers better.

I think that’s a fair point, but we all know that bookies treasure huge losing accounts, which is the reason for the 12 year delay in enacting the gambling bill, which was first mooted in 2009, drafted in 2012, but has yet to be brought into legislation.