Sidney
June 5, 2013, 12:10pm
543
Great question and one I can’t answer off the top of my head although Brian O’Driscoll obviously only got the one minute in 2005 before he was almost murdered.
A very satisfactory outing.
Winners:
BOD - looking back to his best
Halfpenny - sublime kicking
O’Brien - had a stormer
Vunipola - played very well when he came on
Solid displays from Heaslip and T-Bowe
Crofty - scored a try and showed well in supporting the backs in attack
Parling - deserves a start on Saturday
Losers:
Church - injury and false allegation of biting by Sheehan
Wyn-Jones and Evans - weren’t hugely prominent
Can’t wait now for Saturday when we Queensland in Brisbane, after which I’ll select my first weekly revised Test team and squad
Rory Best was poor I thought.
Also Murray just annoys me. He’s just like Mike Phillips.
Apart from skill, ability etc…
Colonel Mike Campbell-Lamerton OBE captain of the 1966 touring party took it upon himself to drop himself for the 2rd and 4th tests in New Zealand. He had suffered a dramatic loss of form on tour largely brought about by a niggling ankle injury.
Its a testament to the stature of the man and nothing less than what you would expect from such a decorated Korean War hero that he would take it upon himself to make such a selfless sacrifice.
[quote=“Manuel Zelaya, post: 781953, member: 377”]Colonel Mike Campbell-Lamerton OBE captain of the 1966 touring party took it upon himself to drop himself for the 2rd and 4th tests in New Zealand. He had suffered a dramatic loss of form on tour largely brought about by a niggling ankle injury.
Its a testament to the stature of the man and nothing less than what you would expect from such a decorated Korean War hero that he would take it upon himself to make such a selfless sacrifice.[/quote]
That is simply awe inspiring. I can see Sam doing likewise.
Just brushing up on his rugby and army career courtesy of the very informative wikipedia. Even more impressive than I had recalled…
[FONT=sans-serif][SIZE=13px]Colonel Michael John “Mike” Campbell-Lamerton (1 August 1933–17 March 2005) was a British army officer[/URL] and [URL=‘http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rugby_union’]rugby union[/URL] player.[/SIZE][SIZE=11px] [/SIZE][SIZE=2]Despite being a career soldier on active service, he would captain the [/SIZE][URL=‘http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotland_national_rugby_union_team’][SIZE=13px]Scotland rugby team[/SIZE] [SIZE=2] a number of times.[/SIZE][/FONT]
[SIZE=13px][FONT=sans-serif]Richard Bath writes of him that he was:[/FONT][/SIZE]
[SIZE=13px][FONT=sans-serif]“A strong scrummager who held his own in the at the line-out and was a considerable presence in the loose, Campbell-Lamerton excelled in the second row for Scotland from his first cap in 1961 until his 23rd in 1966. ”[/FONT][/SIZE]
[SIZE=13px][FONT=sans-serif]Allan Massie provides a more colourful description of him:[/FONT][/SIZE]
[FONT=sans-serif][SIZE=13px]"The sight of captain M.J. Campbell-Lamerton of the Duke of Wellington’s Regiment surging round the tail of a line-out like an enraged hippopotamus was one of the most stirring spectacles in Scottish Rugby. A huge man, 6 feet 5 inches and often over 17 stones, he made an abrupt and unheralded entry into top-class Rugby for a Combined Services team against a Scottish Select at Murrayfield[/URL] in December 1960. The game was played in a thick [URL=‘http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fog’]haar[/URL], and almost the only impression spectators retained of it was of this man-mountain surging out of mist as a [URL=‘http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mastodon’]mastodon from a primeval swamp. It took him into the Scottish team and he stayed there til 1966 to win twenty-three caps." [/SIZE]
[SIZE=13px][SIZE=5][SIZE=19px]Early life[/SIZE] [/SIZE][/SIZE]
[SIZE=13px]Campbell-Lamerton was born in [/SIZE][SIZE=13px]Valletta, Malta[/SIZE][/URL][SIZE=13px], the elder of two sons of Lieutenant-Commander Robert Campbell-Lamerton, and his wife, Margaret. His father was killed in action in 1943 on [/SIZE][URL=‘http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Atlantic’][SIZE=13px]North Atlantic[/SIZE][/URL][SIZE=13px] convoy duty, he was educated at [/SIZE][URL=‘http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottershaw_School’][SIZE=13px]Ottershaw School[/SIZE][/URL][SIZE=13px] near [/SIZE][URL=‘http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windsor,_Berkshire’][SIZE=13px]Windsor, Berkshire[/SIZE][/URL][SIZE=13px].[/SIZE][SIZE=11px] [/SIZE][URL=‘http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Service’][SIZE=13px]National Service[/SIZE][/URL][SIZE=13px] took him to the [/SIZE][URL=‘http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Duke_of_Wellington%27s_Regiment’][SIZE=13px]Duke of Wellington’s Regiment (West Riding)[/SIZE][/URL][SIZE=13px] in 1952, the start of 33 years’ service in the Army during which he served in Korea and [/SIZE][URL=‘http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyprus’][SIZE=13px]Cyprus[/SIZE] [SIZE=13px].[/SIZE]
[SIZE=5][SIZE=19px]Army career [/SIZE] [/SIZE]
[SIZE=5][SIZE=13px]He and his lifelong friend, David Gilbert-Smith, led two platoons of the[/SIZE][SIZE=13px] [/SIZE][SIZE=13px]Duke of Wellington’s Regiment (West Riding)[/SIZE][/URL][SIZE=13px] [/SIZE][SIZE=13px]during the[/SIZE][SIZE=13px] [/SIZE][URL=‘http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Hook’][SIZE=13px]Battle of the Hook[/SIZE][/URL][SIZE=13px] [/SIZE][SIZE=13px]in[/SIZE][SIZE=13px] [/SIZE][URL=‘http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korea’][SIZE=13px]Korea[/SIZE][/URL][SIZE=13px], recovering positions overrun by the Chinese offensive. Campbell-Lamerton had already escaped a life-threatening injury at school when, aged 15, he was struck on the chest by a javelin; he courted death again on foot patrol in Korea when he trod on a mine. Hearing the faint click, he remained still while the corporal with him, who fortunately had worked in bomb disposal during the Second World War, rendered it safe. [/SIZE][SIZE=13px]Three years later, serving in[/SIZE][SIZE=13px] [/SIZE][URL=‘http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyprus’][SIZE=13px]Cyprus[/SIZE][/URL][SIZE=13px] [/SIZE][SIZE=13px]during the[/SIZE][SIZE=13px] [/SIZE][URL=‘http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EOKA’][SIZE=13px]EOKA[/SIZE][/URL][SIZE=13px] [/SIZE][SIZE=13px]campaign, he fell 60 ft from a helicopter in full combat gear, sustaining severe back, hip and leg injuries. That he recovered to play international sport is a tribute to his perseverance as well as his ability; He played rugby for his regiment (The ‘Dukes’), the[/SIZE][SIZE=13px] [/SIZE][URL=‘http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Army_Rugby_Union’][SIZE=13px]Army[/SIZE][/URL][SIZE=13px] [/SIZE][SIZE=13px]and Combined Services, and club rugby with[/SIZE][SIZE=13px] [/SIZE][URL=‘http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halifax_RUFC’][SIZE=13px]Halifax[/SIZE][/URL][SIZE=13px],[/SIZE][SIZE=13px] [/SIZE][URL=‘http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackheath_Rugby_Club’][SIZE=13px]Blackheath Rugby Club[/SIZE][/URL][SIZE=13px] [/SIZE][SIZE=13px]and[/SIZE][SIZE=13px] [/SIZE][URL=‘http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_Scottish_RFC’][SIZE=13px]London Scottish RFC[/SIZE] [SIZE=13px].[/SIZE][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][SIZE=13px]He eventually rose to the rank of Colonel before leaving the army.[/SIZE] [/SIZE]
[SIZE=5][SIZE=19px]Rugby [SIZE=3][edit ][/SIZE][/SIZE] [/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]The first of his 23 Scotland caps came against France in 1961, as he appeared in the next five seasons, twice as captain in 1965. He was picked for the Lions tour to South Africa in 1962, playing all four internationals at [/SIZE][SIZE=13px]number eight[/SIZE][/URL][SIZE=2]. But when the Lions team was selected for the [/SIZE][URL=‘http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1966_British_Lions_tour_to_Australia_and_New_Zealand’][SIZE=13px]1966 tour[/SIZE][/URL][SIZE=2], he was 32, no longer captain of his country and the leadership was expected go to [/SIZE][URL=‘http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alun_Pask’][SIZE=13px]Alun Pask[/SIZE][/URL][SIZE=2], the outstanding Welsh No. 8; Massie says that “[/SIZE][I][SIZE=13px]You would have had no doubt that he [Mike Campbell-Lamerton] could push in the scrum, and with him and [URL=‘http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frans_ten_Bos’]Frans Ten Bos[/URL] together it achieved a solidity and power that had long been lacking.”[/SIZE][/I][SIZE=11px] [/SIZE][I][SIZE=13px]However, he also says that Lamerton was not a good national captain, “[/SIZE][/I][SIZE=2]he was perhaps over-conscientious and a worrier, and hardly spoke the same language as many of the team; it affected his play.[/SIZE][I][SIZE=13px]”[/SIZE][/I][SIZE=11px] [/SIZE][I][SIZE=13px] In terms of sheer entertainment value, Massie says "[/SIZE][/I][SIZE=2]I doubt if any other Scottish lock forward has given so much fun, not even [/SIZE][URL=‘http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alastair_McHarg’][SIZE=13px]Alastair McHarg[/SIZE] [SIZE=2].[/SIZE][SIZE=13px]"[/SIZE]
[SIZE=4][SIZE=17px]Lions in New Zealand (1966) [/SIZE] [/SIZE]
[SIZE=4][SIZE=17px][SIZE=13px]Though the [/SIZE][SIZE=13px]Lions[/SIZE][/URL][SIZE=13px] beat [/SIZE][URL=‘http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australia_national_rugby_union_team’][SIZE=13px]Australia[/SIZE][/URL][SIZE=13px] in successive internationals, the New Zealand section of the tour was marred by ill feeling. After the game with [/SIZE][URL=‘http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canterbury’][SIZE=13px]Canterbury[/SIZE][/URL][SIZE=13px], the Lions captain for the day, [/SIZE][URL=‘http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Telfer’][SIZE=13px]Jim Telfer[/SIZE] [SIZE=13px], said at the after match function: “I would not describe today’s game as dirty because all our games in New Zealand have been dirty.” Understandably this caused a furore but it was the backdrop against which Campbell-Lamerton had to keep his players united.[/SIZE][/SIZE] [/SIZE]
[SIZE=13px]Campbell-Lamerton, in fact, would not have been out of place in the modern game: he was a big man, at 6 feet 5 inches, weighing more than 17 stone, yet athletic enough to play No. 8 as well as his accustomed position in the second row . But the qualities which served him best on the difficult tour of New Zealand as captain of the 1966 Lions were his commitment and willingness which did so much to sustain a struggling tour party.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=13px]At one stage the manager, Des O’Brien[/URL] left the party for a reconnaissance mission to [URL=‘http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiji’]Fiji[/URL] (where a final tour game was to be played), and the coach, [URL=‘http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Robins_(rugby_player)’]John Robins[/URL], was in hospital with damaged ankle ligaments, leaving Campbell-Lamerton with far greater responsibilities than any modern equivalent would face. Yet in a squad which he had not been expected to captain, his players still speak warmly of the example he set after a tour in which the Lions lost all four internationals against the [URL=‘http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_Blacks’]All Blacks . The recurrence of an ankle injury which caused his withdrawal from the second game against New Zealand, did not help and he also missed the final international. “Mike was a decent man and much-maligned”, Brian Price, his second-row partner in three of the tour internationals, said. “We knew how hard he was working and it was because we respected his efforts, we stuck together.”[/SIZE]
[SIZE=13px]After the tour he retired from rugby but in his military career, he rose to the rank of colonel[/URL], led him to the command of a [URL=‘http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battalion’]battalion[/URL] in[URL=‘http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Ireland’]Northern Ireland[/URL], thence to the [URL=‘http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Military_Academy,_Sandhurst’]Royal Military Academy, Sandhurst , where he was commander of Old College and Victory College.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=5][SIZE=19px]Post-military [/SIZE] [/SIZE]
[SIZE=5][SIZE=19px][SIZE=13px]He left the Army in 1985 and became[/SIZE][SIZE=13px] [/SIZE][SIZE=13px]bursar[/SIZE][/URL][SIZE=13px] [/SIZE][SIZE=13px]at[/SIZE][SIZE=13px] [/SIZE][URL=‘http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balliol_College,_Oxford’][SIZE=13px]Balliol College, Oxford[/SIZE][/URL][SIZE=13px], later being elected an[/SIZE][SIZE=13px] [/SIZE][URL=‘http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Emeritus_Fellow&action=edit&redlink=1’][SIZE=13px]Emeritus Fellow[/SIZE][/URL][SIZE=13px] [/SIZE][SIZE=13px]of the college. He also took a close interest in the fortunes of the university rugby club, whose president he eventually became. He was elected a[/SIZE][SIZE=13px] [/SIZE][URL=‘http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sovereign_Military_Order_of_Malta’][SIZE=13px]Knight of Malta[/SIZE][/URL][SIZE=13px], the organisation which raises funds for[/SIZE][SIZE=13px] [/SIZE][URL=‘http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Church’][SIZE=13px]Catholic[/SIZE][/URL][SIZE=13px] [/SIZE][SIZE=13px]charities. In 2001[/SIZE][SIZE=13px] [/SIZE][URL=‘http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostate_cancer’][SIZE=13px]prostate cancer[/SIZE] [SIZE=13px] [/SIZE][SIZE=13px]was diagnosed, an illness he endured with great fortitude until his death on 17 March 2005, aged 71.[/SIZE][/SIZE] [/SIZE]
[SIZE=5][SIZE=19px]Family [/SIZE] [/SIZE]
[SIZE=5][SIZE=19px][SIZE=13px]Campbell-Lamerton is survived by his wife Marie-Christine (née Cottrell), whom he met and married in 1956 while stationed in[/SIZE][SIZE=13px] [/SIZE][SIZE=13px]Gibraltar[/SIZE][/URL][SIZE=13px], and by three sons (one of whom,[/SIZE][SIZE=13px] [/SIZE][URL=‘http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeremy_Campbell-Lamerton’][SIZE=13px]Jeremy[/SIZE][/URL][SIZE=13px],(born 1957) also played[/SIZE][SIZE=13px] [/SIZE][URL=‘http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rugby_union_positions’][SIZE=13px]lock[/SIZE] [SIZE=13px] [/SIZE][SIZE=13px]for Scotland, five times in the 1986-7 season[/SIZE][SIZE=13px]), Michael Patrick (born 1958), Ian Anthony (born 1962) and a daughter Clare Josephine Margaret (born 1961).[/SIZE][/SIZE] [/SIZE][/FONT]
Corbisero called up for Healy
Did Cian Healy bite an opponent today?
Sidney
June 5, 2013, 6:09pm
551
He has been cited.
Has Corbs been called up as a replacement or as additional cover in the hope that Church might recover, I wonder? It seems it may be the latter. Delighted for Corbs who was always my no.1 at no.1 until his injury.
Disappointed the goys havent gotten the team up her yet
[SIZE=11px][FONT=lucida grande]British Lions (v Queensland Reds, June 8, 7.30pm/10.30am, Suncorp Stadium, Brisbane)[/FONT][/SIZE]
[SIZE=11px][FONT=lucida grande]15. Stuart Hogg (Glasgow Warriors/Scotland)[/FONT][/SIZE]
[SIZE=11px][FONT=lucida grande]14. Alex Cuthbert (Cardiff Blues/Wales)[/FONT][/SIZE]
[SIZE=11px][FONT=lucida grande]13. Manusamoa Tuilagi (Leicester Tigers/England)[/FONT][/SIZE]
[SIZE=11px][FONT=lucida grande]12. Jonathan Davies (Scarlets/Wales)[/FONT][/SIZE]
[SIZE=11px][FONT=lucida grande]11. Tommy Bowe (Ulster/Ireland)[/FONT][/SIZE]
[SIZE=11px][FONT=lucida grande]10. Owen Farrell (Saracens/England)[/FONT][/SIZE]
[SIZE=11px][FONT=lucida grande]9. Ben Youngs (Leicester Tigers/England)[/FONT][/SIZE]
[SIZE=11px][FONT=lucida grande]1. Gethin Jenkins (Toulon/Wales)[/FONT][/SIZE]
[SIZE=11px][FONT=lucida grande]2. Tom Youngs (Leicester Tigers/England)[/FONT][/SIZE]
[SIZE=11px][FONT=lucida grande]3. Matt Stevens (Saracens/England)[/FONT][/SIZE]
[SIZE=11px][FONT=lucida grande]4. Richie Gray (Scotland)[/FONT][/SIZE]
[SIZE=11px][FONT=lucida grande]5. Geoff Parling (Leicester Tigers/England)[/FONT][/SIZE]
[SIZE=11px][FONT=lucida grande]6. Dan Lydiate (Dragons/Wales)[/FONT][/SIZE]
[SIZE=11px][FONT=lucida grande]7. Sam Warburton (Cardiff Blues/Wales)[/FONT][/SIZE]
[SIZE=11px][FONT=lucida grande]8. Tangaki Taulupe Faletau (Dragons/Wales)[/FONT][/SIZE]
[SIZE=11px][FONT=lucida grande]Replacements[/FONT][/SIZE]
[SIZE=11px][FONT=lucida grande]16. Richard Hibbard (Ospreys/Wales)[/FONT][/SIZE]
[SIZE=11px][FONT=lucida grande]17. Makovina Vunipola (Saracens/England)[/FONT][/SIZE]
[SIZE=11px][FONT=lucida grande]18. Adam Jones (Ospreys/Wales)[/FONT][/SIZE]
[SIZE=11px][FONT=lucida grande]19. Paul O’Connell (Munster/Ireland)[/FONT][/SIZE]
[SIZE=11px][FONT=lucida grande]20. Justin Tipuric (Ospreys/Wales)[/FONT][/SIZE]
[SIZE=11px][FONT=lucida grande]21. Conor Murray (Munster/Ireland)[/FONT][/SIZE]
[SIZE=11px][FONT=lucida grande]22. Jonathan Sexton (Leinster/Ireland)[/FONT][/SIZE]
[SIZE=11px][FONT=lucida grande]23. George North (Scarlets/Wales)[/FONT][/SIZE][FONT=lucida grande][SIZE=11px] [/SIZE][/FONT]
Sidney
June 6, 2013, 8:58pm
553
I believe Church has no case to answer here and if anything has been more sinned against.
http://prem0.hiboox.com/images/2313/diapo1c5476abec235ac5699378202ea5faa3.gif
Ah here, thats all it was? Ridiculous.
Sidney
June 6, 2013, 10:33pm
555
Let’s hope our British Loin gets some good, old fashioned British justice.
#godsaveourchurch
Sidney
June 7, 2013, 5:09am
556
Church found NOT GUILTY!
Ring the bells in celebration!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BeCCPa-J3q0
This will be the winning of the series.
Chuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuurrrrrrrrrch, NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Sidney
June 7, 2013, 10:51am
559
[quote=“myboyblue, post: 782546, member: 180”]Chuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuurrrrrrrrrch, NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
:([/quote]
It feels like the Troy Davis case, when we celebrated that an innocent man had got a stay of execution, then we woke up the next morning to find he’d been executed after all.
RIP Church’s Loins Tour 2013 but at least he’ll always have his good name. Cian is not that sort of player and it would have been completely out of character for him to engage in that sort of behaviour.
Scotland’s Ryan Grant is now gets a chance to live the dream in Church’s stead, although you’d have to ask, just what has Andrew Sheridan done wrong?
It’s all news on the loose head prop front with the Jenkster being ruled out of tomorrow’s match with a calf strain. Mako Vunipola is now the only fit loose head currently with the touring party (Corbs will be too jetlagged to play tomorrow and Granty obviously won’t be there yet) and starts with tight head Dan Cole now having to cover for him on the bench.
Mako certainly now looks the man in possession of the number one Test shirt.
Unsettling times on tour Sidney
[quote=“Sidney, post: 782558, member: 183”]
Mako certainly now looks the man in possession of the number one Test shirt.[/quote]
What part of Britain and Ireland is Mako from Sid?
Mako surely now. He looked excellent in games so far. Jenkins calf is a long term issue.
You’d wonder if Sheridan made himself unavailable.