A good week for Ed last week. An excellent one for him this week. The Daily Mail disgust me.
Millbender is unelectable. David Cameron does be only laughing at him
@Raymond Crotty Can I get your thoughts on the following please?
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[]How much do you attribute UKIP’s increase over their opinion poll percentage to the love affair your beloved BBC seems to be having with them?
[]How much do you blame Labour’s weakening performance on Ed Miliband’s cautious leadership and failure to attack UKIP head on?
[*]Do you think Labour were particularly cowardly in the north of England where UKIP remain very strong, despite their Thatcherite politics? Conservatives + UKIP have the same combined votes as Labour in the north of England. Is this because Labour don’t recognise the threat of the right or weren’t aggressive enough in attacking them?
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hon UKIP. That Farrage lad has mugged them all off, mugged them off good and proper, especially that slimy little turd Millibender and his shitty fucked up voice
Milliband is unelectable. Economic growth will help the government but Ukip will prevent the Tories getting a majority. Another coalition i reckon.
But what happens if Scotland vote fir independence? Will it be an E&W only election?
the jocks won’t vote for independence, they are full of wind and piss, they know what side their bread is buttered on when it comes down to it
Sucking at the teat of mother England. A horrible race.
Disgusting bastards.
[QUOTE=“Rocko, post: 948216, member: 1”]@Raymond Crotty Can I get your thoughts on the following please?
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[]How much do you attribute UKIP’s increase over their opinion poll percentage to the love affair your beloved BBC seems to be having with them?
[]How much do you blame Labour’s weakening performance on Ed Miliband’s cautious leadership and failure to attack UKIP head on?
[*]Do you think Labour were particularly cowardly in the north of England where UKIP remain very strong, despite their Thatcherite politics? Conservatives + UKIP have the same combined votes as Labour in the north of England. Is this because Labour don’t recognise the threat of the right or weren’t aggressive enough in attacking them?
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Nonsensical first question
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Wouldn’t call being first leader in 20 odd years to attack might of News Corporation cautious. Nor his decision to open legal proceedings against The Daily Mail. Nor his opposition to war in Syria (and Iraq) when it was generally popular even within elements of his own party. Nor putting his reputation on line on climate change talks in Copenhagen.
He is one politician in recent times who is actually trying to shift political landscape to the left rather than being a centrist or centre right. For that he might not get elected but at least he is trying
- Labour could have been stronger all right though Diane Abbott certainly wasn’t meek.
As for UKIP they won’t get more than a handful of seats at the very worst come May. They won’t poll as strongly in GE and even if they do it still would only leave them with odd seat in Tory heartland.
They will do very well in European elections on Sunday though. Have backed greens heavily to get more than two seats and secured a special price with PP on it
[QUOTE=“Raymond Crotty, post: 948271, member: 25”]1. Nonsensical first question
- Wouldn’t call being first leader in 20 odd years to attack might of News Corporation cautious. Nor his decision to open legal proceedings against The Daily Mail. Nor his opposition to war in Syria (and Iraq) when it was generally popular even within elements of his own party. Nor putting his reputation on line on climate change talks in Copenhagen.
He is one politician in recent times who is actually trying to shift political landscape to the left rather than being a centrist or centre right. For that he might not get elected but at least he is trying
- Labour could have been stronger all right though Diane Abbott certainly wasn’t meek.
As for UKIP they won’t get more than a handful of seats at the very worst come May. They won’t poll as strongly in GE and even if they do it still would only leave them with odd seat in Tory heartland.
They will do very well in European elections on Sunday though. Have backed greens heavily to get more than two seats and secured a special price with PP on it[/QUOTE]
- UKIP got more airtime on Question Time than any other party, despite their very low representation. They have been handed streams of free publicity by BBC.
2&3. His electoral strategy was very cautious and careful. Labour didn’t seem to recognise the threat from UKIP to their support, they seemed to think they’d just be taking votes off the tories. They have allowed the right to gain a serious foothold, even in the north where their combined tally is bigger than Labour’s. That’s very worrying for Labour. I think they were very slow to recognise that threat and far too reluctant to go on the offensive about it.
[QUOTE=“Rocko, post: 948281, member: 1”]1. UKIP got more airtime on Question Time than any other party, despite their very low representation. They have been handed streams of free publicity by BBC.
2&3. His electoral strategy was very cautious and careful. Labour didn’t seem to recognise the threat from UKIP to their support, they seemed to think they’d just be taking votes off the tories. They have allowed the right to gain a serious foothold, even in the north where their combined tally is bigger than Labour’s. That’s very worrying for Labour. I think they were very sl
ow to recognise that threat and far too reluctant to go on the offensive about it.[/QUOTE]
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That’s based on votes from last round of European elections where UKIP performed very strongly
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Perhaps they have been too hesitant to go on attack mode and have paid price for that in council elections. Come May I doubt labour will lose a single seat to UKIP though.
Elements of Blue Labour are interpreting these results as Labour not being close enough to business and going on about cost of living too much.
Who tipp people?
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Elements of Blue Labour are interpreting these results as Labour not being close enough to business and going on about cost of living too much.[/QUOTE]
Do you prefer unelectable labour?
By electable if you mean Tory light then yes.
How can Ed talk about the cost of living from his inherited house worth 2 million quid?
he must have a nice council tax bill in fairness
He’s actually supposed to be a decent person, but the knives are out for him.
Once you are top bracket, it makes no difference. It’s not that much of a progressive tax, though its not really supposed to be I suppose.
What’s that got to do with anything? You don’t have to be poor to see inequality?