Celebrity Deaths - 2017


#1503

An enemy of the republic.


#1504

A fantastic approach to dealing with the Provos. Helped draft Sunningdale, sadly a bit too early for the children up there to deal with. Dealt a poor economic hand but made the wrong calls on tax and spend like many would after him. Like his father before him, a great democrat who was eventually outmanoeuvred by populist FF. Pity about the son.

Mid ranking.


#1505

Voted against the contraceptive bill I have just discovered.

Not surprising.

Some great Reeling in the Years moments though.


#1506

a better approach than the great Bertie?


#1507

Like his father before him, he was a British spy.


#1508

He didn’t deal with the Provos.

He hid under some coats and hoped everything would turn out alright.


#1509

He was also nonchalant to foreign spies bombing our streets


#1510

His father was a fine Irishman.


#1511

His father had four fine Irishmen taken out of a prison cell and shot in the back of the head without trial.


#1512

No he was strong in the face of them. Would have been very easy to cowtow to Anti Brit sympathies and let them on their merry way.

The Provos bombed themselves out by the 90s and rolled over. Democracy is key.


#1513

Who? Drumboe?

The worst thing he ever did was take part in the unlawful 1916 insurrection which had no democratic mandate and killed over 250 innocent civilians. You don’t have a problem with that though.


#1514

Did you ever open a history book?


#1515

He is referring to the executions of Rory O’Connor, Liam Mellowes and two others which took place during the civil war in a reprisal for the murder of Sean Hales, a stain on WTs legacy certainly but he did a lot of good things.


#1516

Those were lawful.


#1517

They were unfortunate at the least, I believe it was mulcahy that pressed for them but WT would have had to sign off


#1518

I asked you a question. The Provisional Government had the authority to make plenty of executions, regardless of your moral opinion of those.

There were unlawful executions, but not Ines authorised by the democratically elected Government of Ireland.


#1519

The Anti treaty IRA ignored the democratic will of the people.

They undertook an insurrection, taking over land they had no right to.

They murdered elected politicians.

They ignored an amnesty.

They called for the execution of newspaper editors and judges.

The Free State army did plenty wrong alright and many more morally wrong things too, I wouldn’t put those executions near the top of the list though.


#1520

He never give a shit about bringing the perpetrators of the Dublin and Monaghan bombs to justice.


#1521

These executions were unlawful as the four gentlemen had been captured before the relevant law had been adopted.


#1522

The late Breandáin Ó Hehir had a great anecdote about W.T. Cosgrave visiting the Vatican and tormenting Pope Pius over whether it was sinful to refer to St. Anne as “God’s Granny” as his family were wont to do in his formative years.

The Pope turned to one of the Curia and, in Latin, basically told them to “get this asshole out of here”