Champions League - 2008/09

A bit of positive coverage on what was a brilliant night of football, but when the Dubiln sporting public can only turn out under 5,000 to see a team of this calibre, there is no hope, far too many idiots would rather give Rovers 35 quid for a friendly against Sunderland

Clinical Aliyev kills off brave Drogheda
Drogheda United 1 Dynamo Kiev 2

By Daniel McDonnell

Wednesday July 30 2008

IT’S a cruel game sometimes. This may have been a fair result on the balance of play, but Drogheda United did not deserve to lose like this.

They were four minutes from securing an honourable first-leg draw as the punters at Dalymount Park, the home of Irish football, were treated to an absorbing European encounter, a classic case of the underdog punching above their weight against stronger opposition.

However, they were denied the draw by Oleksandr Aliyev’s low drive which eluded Jamie Ewings at his near post – a heartbreaking moment for the Drogheda keeper who had produced a string of top-class second-half stops to retain parity.

They will go to Kiev next week facing almost certain elimination from the Champions League, but considering their erratic form at domestic level this year, their performances in Europe have restored their reputation and given Irish football something positive to think about.

Pressure

Following their dismal performance in the Champions League group stages last year, where they failed to take a point from six outings, Russian coach Yuri Semin is under serious pressure to deliver. That’s why there was no messing in his team selection, with the same side that scored a 3-1 success over Dnipro at the weekend sent into battle here.

Drogheda, unchanged from the team which secured their passage to last night’s contest with success in Tallinn last Wednesday, learned within seconds that this was an entirely different proposition. The slickness of Kiev’s passing was immediately apparent, and they should have been ahead in the third minute when Artem Milevsky – twice on the target against Dnipro – was woefully off the mark after an incisive series of Ukrainian passes.

However, for all Kiev’s attacking prowess, they looked less assured when ruffled at the back, where their comfort on the ball veered into casualness.

On 10 minutes, such tardiness had the large Dalymount Park crowd on their feet when Ollie Cahill intercepted before going on a direct run which culminated with a daisy cutter that Oleksandr Shovkovsky did well to push around the post. For a wonderful 60 seconds or so, Drogheda followers began to dream.

Alas, reality bit hard when Kiev took the game by the scruff of the neck and duly captured a deserved advantage in the 23rd minute.

As a portent of what was to come later, it was harsh. Ewings had blocked bravely from Milevsky and 8m man Ognjen Vukojevic before his mistake led to the deadlock being broken.

The Scot raced from his line to deal unconvincingly with an Aliyev free kick, only pushing the ball into the direction of visiting centre-half Taras Mykhalyk, who kept his composure to slot the ball home.

It was looking ominous, but Drogheda committed bodies forward where possible, forcing a penalty shout when a Fahrudin Kuduzovic cross appeared to have been blocked, in part, by the hand of Andrii Nesmachny.

Yet there was little time for Drogheda to dwell on such incidents, as any loss of concentration invariably resulted in a Kiev opening with Milevsky again wasteful when finding space for a shot before the interval.

At that juncture, the Ukrainians would doubtless have been of the opinion that they could afford such profligacy, but they hadn’t banked on Drogheda’s new-found habit of bursting out of the second-half blocks with purpose.

Graham Gartland’s winner against Tallinn last week came in the 47th minute and it was at the same point they scored again, with Adam Hughes meeting a Kuduzovic cross to find the back of the net with a combination of his head, the angle of the post and the flailing hand of Shovkovsky.

Rather than being startled by the setback, Kiev were energised with both Bangoura and Aliyev off target when they should have restored their side’s lead. On the hour mark, Vukojevic hit the post. Drogheda still had moments on the break where a dose of subtlety could have yielded returns with two poor decisions by Kuduzovic pre-empting his withdrawal.

As the half progressed, however, attention switched to the home rearguard where Gartland and Shaun Maher made a pair of last-ditch tackles.

Recent patients Shane Barrett and Brian Shelley were introduced to give Drogheda a new lease of life and a bit more spark on the counter, but they were mainly engaged in defence with Ewings making another fine save from Milevsky in the 70th minute.

The home netminder was only playing in the absence of the injured Dan Connor, but was performing above the level of an understudy. Alas, holding onto that situation going into next Wednesday’s second leg proved beyond the Eircom League side, as Kiev had the energy to press forward with a purpose that would eventually pay off.

They celebrated Aliyev’s winner with a sense of relief that their pre-match ruminations suggested they could not have anticipated.

“We were magnificent tonight, especially in the second half, and I’m delighted with the way we played,” said Drogheda boss Paul Doolin. "The only thing that annoys me is that we lost our home unbeaten record in Europe.

“We rode our luck at times and we’re under no illusions about how difficult it’s going to be out there but we’ll be going with the same attitude.”

Drogheda United – Ewings; Byrne, Gartland, Maher, Kendrick; Baker (O’Brien 89), Keegan (Shelley 69), Hughes, Cahill, Kuduzovic (Barrett 61); Zayed.

Dynamo Kiev – Shovjovskyi; Betao, Diakhate, Mykhalyk, Nesmachniy; Ghioane (Shatskikh 79), Aliyev, Vukojevic Ninkovic; Milevsky (El Kaddouri 88); Bangoura (Kravets 61).

REF – S Oddvar Moen (Norway).

  • Daniel McDonnell

Even David Kelly was impressed…

Doolin’s men give stirring statement on their league’s vitality

By David Kelly

Wednesday July 30 2008

Paul Doolin had laughed at the suggestion that the league is knackered on Tuesday. He laughed because he’d been asked the same question a week earlier.

And his team had got a result then. Why not again, he reckoned. But not against Dynamo Kiev, with their dappled array of internationals, multi-million euro signings and trophy-laden history? They dared to dream. Although the portents were gloomy at half-time, enthusiastic endeavour and no little skill were betrayed by an unluckily conceded deficit.

That particular irony was not lost on the fervent home support as they pondered the entrails of both their half-time deficit and their lavishly decorated burgers.

A couple of minutes before half-time, full-back Joe Kendrick hacked down Papa Diakhate, as he had done 20 minutes earlier. Papa Diakhate sauntered over nonchalantly to address the free-kick, as he had done 20 minutes earlier. His delivery was perfectly flighted, his best set-piece delivery of a fitful first-half with the placed ball. Mercifully, it was met by a thunderous Drogheda header.

Twenty minutes earlier though, his fluffed effort unwittingly eked out his side’s breakthrough. Belatedly, Drogheda goalkeeper Jamie Ewings responded to the danger, his mediation imprecise enough to allow Taras Mykhalyk to gleefully pounce. With one bound, Dynamo Kiev had claimed that precious commodity in European football, the away goal, and, in all probability their passage to next round of qualification for the Champions League.

Drogheda’s initial forays had betrayed an honest approach entirely absent of fear in the face of daunted opponents, whose qualification for the world’s most prestigious competition has been de rigeur for more than a decade.

With Ollie Cahill, this country’s most experienced European competitor, bounding down the left side as if he were the mere gambolling figure of his Tipperary youth, the home side were not cowed by their moneyed opponents.

Adam Hughes and Paul Keegan were a dynamic midfield presence and with Shaun Maher managing to pocket the attacking brio of Guinean international Ismael Bangoura, who, a mischievous misprint in the programme informed us, was a bargain buy at 5. On the first-half evidence, the error seemed not so grievous.

The encouragement of 400 or so Irish-based Ukrainians was mostly silenced by the feverish, if under-populated home support; for a league in dire need of good causes to support, a crowd scarcely topping 4,000 was pitiful on this, the Eircom League’s showpiece occasion.

Drogheda boss Paul Doolin, a near three-decade long veteran of stellar nights such as these, emphasises the importance of shape and discipline in this, the most mentally and physically testing of all soccer tasks.

Kendrick’s foibles aside, Doolin would have been relatively sanguine at the break. Mindful of some loose play from Faz Kudozovic in particular, he would have emphasised core principles.

The response from his players was immediately fruitful, replicating the responses to their previous two first-half outings in Europe, especially here a fortnight ago when staring defeat to Levadia in the face.

And it was the man they call Faz, chief tormentor of his side’s ambitions to remain secure and solid, who came up trumps with his delicious ball to Adam Hughes, forcing an equaliser for his side and ignominy for the Kiev goalkeeper, their most experienced campaigner.

It was game on and the Dalymount Roar offered throaty affirmation. Kiev responded with a triple assault on goal, their nearest effort from the Croat, Ognjen Vukojevic, who hit the post.

Ultimately, fitness proved crucial as Kiev’s strength ferried them through the decisive final minutes where so many minnows face the expiration of their dreams.

Yet sometimes even fitness is no match for feral guts and Drogheda toiled to the end.

Maher, 12 years on from his European debut, was magnificent, Graham Gartland equally so, as Drogheda withheld a predictably furious storm, emboldened by their passionate supporters, wallowing in this triumphant summer as Ireland’s representatives at Europe’s top table.

The Eircom League product may be in dire need of salvation. But there is no question that its production line is something to be far more proud of despite this reverse.

  • David Kelly

I considered attending this match briefly until I realised it clashed with Astro and then realised I’d no real way home and then realised I couldn’t do any of that either. However I definitely agree with the whole point - I’d rather go to that match than Shels v Celtic in a friendly (even if Celtic played their first team).

Oh and can I just add I didn’t agree Sledge with your criticism before of Celtic fans cheering on Helsingsborg (or Larsson specifically) against Drogheda. I think the main thing at the moment is getting guys in to watch Eircom League teams. Drawing a crowd for competitive games (even if some are there to watch/support the opposition) can only help the league - provides more money and gives a showcase for the league teams to show how good their football is. Friendlies though are a waste of time. It’s short-term benefit (and that’s important to clubs no doubt) but it only reinforces the league’s inferiority.

For what it’s worth I didn’t go to see Drogheda v Helsingsborg and would have preferred to see Drogheda v Kiev as an encounter. But Larsson was/is a class act and seeing him play competitively on your doorstep was a real advert for the LOI.

We’ll agree to disagree on that - seeing a player of Larsson’s class in your own city is something that should have drawn out even more people than it did. However, I can’t accept that wearing Celtic tops and cheering on the foreign team is anything other than idiotic.

Not really disputing that side of it Sledge - not for me really, I think it’s hysterical fandom as opposed to support or appreciating sport or anything. I think the substantive point though is they were there and the more times you get people going to competitive games the more likely they are to return.

I’d agree - more in hope than expectation though, and it’s probably an almost forlorn hope given that when people reach a certain age (the age of the boozer on a Sunday, the pint bottle of cider, and the jersey), it’s next to impossible to convert them. But that’s the situation, all one can do is hope that they come back.

Or alternatively, we could try this:

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SK Brann laboured to a 1-0 win v Ventspils of Latvia in their first leg Champions League 2nd qualifying round. An 87th min winner from Njogu Demba-Nyrn (heard Celtic are in for him) gives the Norwegian champs the slenderest of leads for the return fixture next Wednesday.

I’m a bit different. I’d have no interest whatsoever in watching Drogheda or LOI team, other than Wexford Youths, play a competitive game. However, I’m considering going to watch Celtic Reserves in Tolka Park tonight.

So there.

Result from Glasgow:

Huns 0-0 Kaunas

The summer break hasn’t changed a thing. Only 35,000 turned up and now they’ll look to replicate their UEFA Cup run from last year by packing their defence and hoping someone gets on the end of a hack forward and bags an away goal.

This man had an effort cleared off the line:

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Christ only tuned into this thread now after being out of electronica earlier this evening - assumed the huns would have stuffed kaunas at home. They’ll still likely progress but that’s a shocking result. Think we only beat them 1 or 2 nothing at home but we’d already but 4 past them in Lithuania.

Here Rocko, I have a question.

Is it actually in Celtic’s best interests that the huns get through this round?

If they go out at the 2nd qualifying stage then they don’t have the consolation UEFA Cup prize. They’ll be straight out on their ear, like we were when we lost to Artmedia, and will have no European football at all.

This would obviously adversely affect the Scottish co-efficient and isn’t there new criteria coming in soon about which countries’ champions gain automatic CL group stage entry? It’s arisen from the changes Platini’s been trying to push through and I think it’s based on the strength of the overall national co-efficient.

In that sense, it might actually be better if they win this tie but then lose the 3rd round qualifier. Celtic would then get the full pot of Scottish CL television revenue and wouldn’t have to share it with the huns. Meanwhile, those scumbags could then pick up a few hollow UEFA Cup wins to keep the overall co-efficient ticking over.

In fairness, I’d personally prefer for them to get routed next week and take my chances on Celtic having to beat someone difficult to get into the group stages in qualifier games from next year on.

Suppose if they got through this round and knocked out next round it would be worst possible result for them. They would get minimum gate receips without UEFA Cup or Champions League Group Football. Would mean an extra few million for us to possibly spend in the summer if they got knocked out of Champions League. Could be quite important actually more I think about it. Feck the co-efficient I say unless it has a serious impact.

Larry first: if they exit in the next round they’d get UEFA Cup football.

Bandage: think we’re safe enough for the time being. The new rules from Platini extended the number of teams that get automatic group placings to 12. At the moment it goes as far as the top 9 countries (top 6 of which get 2 spots) with another spot available if the champions are already qualified. And we scrape through as the 10th ranked country.

For 2009/10 Scotland are ranked 10th again. Below are Ukraine and Turkey with Switzerland, Belgium and Greece and in the 3 places outside an automatic spot. There’s a fairly big gap between 12th and 13th at the moment so if we can match the achievements of those countries below us we should be fine.

In summary: get the huns out, we’ll carry the coefficient this year like they bravely did last season.

Queen of the South could get further than them in Europe. I don’t want to get ahead of myself but they’ll really struggle without Ferguson.

The one bit we do know is that the punishment for finishing second in the SPL will be much greater from now on. The likelihood is that the draw would put the runners-up against the fourth team in La Liga, EPL, third team in Bundesliga etc. Not an end to qualification but it’s unlikely Celtic would be seeded in such a scenario and there are very tough potential ties.

Just found this on Celtic Quick News. Some good digs at the huns, which I’ve bolded:

Millions extra for Celtic if Rangers crash

Five years ago today Celtic returned to European action after losing the Uefa Cup Final in Seville with a Champions League qualifier against Kaunas from Lithuania.

One of the significant benefits of winning the league last season is that we can kick-back and relax as last season’s domestic losers today face the same opposition on their return to European action after their unforgettable trip to Manchester; a remarkable symmetry.

Guaranteed Champions League group stage income, Celtic have both a financial and coefficient interest in tonight’s game. If Rangers are eliminated from the Champions League in the qualifying rounds, Celtic will retain all of the Scottish TV pot, which will be worth around an extra 2.5m to the club. Guaranteed Champions League income, however, is the result not only of winning last season’s SPL, but of the Uefa coefficient points harvested by both Celtic and Rangers, and to a lesser extent others, in the last five years.

It’s worth remembering that Rangers have made a significant contribution to Celtic’s group stage qualification, earning more points than the three-in-a-row champions have during this period.

The stakes could hardly be higher at Ibrox. Having achieved a top two finish for the second year in succession Rangers appear to have consolidated their position as ‘Best of the rest’ domestically, and their European run last season provided evidence that there was real substance in the SPL challenge, but an aging squad, already riddled with injuries, suggests that expensive redevelopment will be required soon.

Failure to reach the Champions League group stage will be a severe financial blow to the Ibrox club. Perhaps our short-term self-interest in Rangers continuing their good work in earning Celtic coefficient points should be put aside, as a win for Kaunas would undermine the ‘Best of the rest’ for some time to come.

Please elaborate…thought ferguson was shown up badly in europe last season and domestically…ok he grabbed a few goals when playin just behind a lone striker in the league running on to knock downs but as a midfielder and supossed leader he was anominous for the most part…Davis,McCullogh (when fit) and whitaker especially performed a lot better than him throughout the season…i still think kenny miller is a huge loss to celtic and massive gain to Rangers…great pace and not afraid to run his bollox off every game whether it be champions league or CIS league cup…

Ask any (or most) huns fans and they’d take 500k for McCullough. Played ok in a couple of high profile games earlier in the season (notably against Celtic) but after that he disappeared. He has no first touch and gives away far too many free kicks. Not well liked by his fans at all.

Ferguson can be a bit of a luxury sometimes but the one thing he doesn’t tend to do is hide. He does generally look for the ball and he tries to get them going forward - he found Hutton in lots of space for the first 5 months of the season and basic as that sounds it killed most teams in the SPL.

Miller will run all day. He is shite though. I persisted with supporting him alot longer than most Celtic fans (largely because most wanted Riordan instead and I don’t rate him). But ultimately it comes down to class and Miller simply doesn’t have enough. He’s guaranteed to score a couple of great goals where he screams away from a defence and puts the ball in the top corner but that’s not enough when you miss every other chance. Plus for all his hard work he can’t hold the ball up very well because his touch is too bad.

[quote=“therock67”]Ask any (or most) huns fans and they’d take 500k for McCullough. Played ok in a couple of high profile games earlier in the season (notably against Celtic) but after that he disappeared. He has no first touch and gives away far too many free kicks. Not well liked by his fans at all.

Ferguson can be a bit of a luxury sometimes but the one thing he doesn’t tend to do is hide. He does generally look for the ball and he tries to get them going forward - he found Hutton in lots of space for the first 5 months of the season and basic as that sounds it killed most teams in the SPL.

Miller will run all day. He is shite though. I persisted with supporting him alot longer than most Celtic fans (largely because most wanted Riordan instead and I don’t rate him). But ultimately it comes down to class and Miller simply doesn’t have enough. He’s guaranteed to score a couple of great goals where he screams away from a defence and puts the ball in the top corner but that’s not enough when you miss every other chance. Plus for all his hard work he can’t hold the ball up very well because his touch is too bad.[/quote]

what you make of whittaker? thought he was good any time i saw him last year…Miller is rough around the edges alright but industry does count for a lot in scottish football…