Bet365 go NRNB on ALL Cheltenham races
Kewl beanz
And we’re off
So is anyone else doing a concession at this point besides B365? Would like to back one in the county but not at their price.
If its a definite runner is the risk not worth it?
I don’t like betting antepost i have been burnt before with NRs, not worth the risk most of the time and certainly not in this case. I will wait.
Dont let NRNB draw you in if its unlikely to get punted. Specials on the day will be much better as I’m sure you know. 3 places now vs 5 places on the day. Money back if beaten by fav or other stuff like that. I’m trying not to have my first bet until the weekend beforehand and its a struggle but I’d be way down if I’d bet ante post so far.
None. Jezki is the one I’d be most tempted to lump into.
Also, I’d previously been talking up Shanahans Turn for the JLT but I think I picked the wrong De Bromhead horse. Smashing is an, eh, smashing price at 25/1. Forgot he was 4th in Coral Cup last year. Also is the only horse to stay with UDS for any amount of time this season.
He didn’t stay with UDS, he was beaten out of sight by a horse who crossed the line on the bridle
He finished closer than Clarcam did. Neither got UDS off the bridle. Smashing then came out and pissed up in Gowran.
Even with McCoy on board ? Thought you said previously he doesn’t get a tune out of him
He’s also consistently said UDS has beaten nothing and now puts up one of them as the JLT winner
I also said I was wrong after UDS hammered Clarcam and Gilgamboa. Take another swing there, you might connect eventually. I’ll still oppose him for the Arkle for what its worth.
I’d prefer BJG on board but AP will have to suffice.
Notes taken from Preview night in Balbriggan with Gary O’Brien (GOB), Kevin Ryan (KR), Andrew Lynch (AL), Tony Martin ™ and Paul Ryan (PR) from Paddy Power on Thursday 19th February.
Supreme Novices:
All were unanimous that Douvan was the one to beat.
PR says he is like to shorten close to evens on the day so best to back early. He described him as “bombproof”.
KR was all about Douvan with Mullins telling him “he’s as nice a horse as we’ve ever had” and even Mullins’ mother saying if she could have any horse in the stable it’d be him over even Faugheen.
The ew value all agreed was Shaneshill at 12/1.
Neptune Novices Hurdle:
KR was all about Windsor Park regardless of whether he runs here or in the Albert Bertlett saying he likes nice ground and Pat Smullen thinks very highly of the horse. Also likes Outlander if Windsor Park doesn’t go in this.
TM reckons Windsor Park is one of the bets of the meeting with AL saying likewise, that he’s a great ew bet, hoping that he runs in this rather than the Albert Bartlett.
PR thinks Nichols Canyon is a good horse but the vibes for Tell Us More are not good coming from the stable.
Albert Bartlett:
All didn’t like the chances of Black Hercules and look elsewhere.
KR likes Value at Risk saying he’s a decent horse and the trip should suit. Martello Tower is excellent value ew too.
AL thinks likewise about Martello Tower, the trip will suit (unbeaten over 3 miles) and at 10/1 is great value.
TM also likes Martello Tower and also likes No More Heroes saying he will be bang there provided he jumps better than last time.
PR thinks both Martello Tower and Value at Risk have great chances while No More Heroes is well worth a bet (which GOB agreed with too).
Triumph Hurdle:
None are convinced with Peace and Co saying he carries his head too high and has been beating pigs and is too short in the betting.
PR says Peace and Co will be the lay of the week and thinks Hargam has a better chance. Petite Parisienne has done nothing wrong either but betting wise it’s wide open.
TM likes Hargam with AL agreeing with him being a value bet at 5/1 and Petite Parisienne will be best of be Irish.
KR says lay Peace and Co and lump on Petite Parisienne saying “he will win”. KR reckons Dicosimo is definitely one for the future saying he may well turn out to be the best horse to emerge from this race but may not win this.
Arkle Chase:
All adamant Un de Sceaux won’t be touched barring a fall.
KR says no to Josses Hill and Clarcam w/o Un de Sceaux or ew is an excellent bet, he jumps brilliantly which TM agreed with.
RSA Chase:
PR says Don Poli will go here not the 4 miler and will definitely shorten. Also impressed with Kings Palace but thinks he and Coneygree will cut each other’s throats contesting the lead.
KR likes Coneygree over Kings Palace but thinks Don Poli has rock solid form and will win this. The Young Master is a great bet in the 4 miler instead of this.
AL has been impressed with Don Poli but is also a huge Coneygree fan.
TM says he would buy Don Poli over any other horse but also says Coneygree has an excellent chance too. Heathfield in the 4 miler for him.
JLT Chase:
PR says Paddy will be laying Vautour, reckons all things with him are possibly not as they should be.
AL thinks 9/4 is too short for Vautour but David Casey fancies Vautour and all agreed he is one of the best judges of a horse around. Pitt Zig is a no after his fall but if Gitane du Berlais is a great price if he goes.
KR says Valsur Lido will turn the form with Apache Stronghold and hasn’t been impressed with Vautour the last twice.
TM thinks Vautour is the one to beat if on form but Ptit Zig has a good chance.
Champion Chase:
None are convinced that Sprinter Sacre is as good as he was and will be a lay by bookies. TM says though if he is back to anywhere near his best he will win.
PR thinks Hidden Cyclone represents excellent value and both KR and TM thought likewise. For him Champagne Fever is too short however KR thinks he has a good chance as did GOB.
While all agreed Dodging Bullets is the form horse his record at Cheltenham is shocking.
Mixed feelings over Sire de Grugy, AL yes but KR and PR no.
Big no for Mr Mole from AL describing him as “a pig”.
Ryanair Chase:
KR and AL not keen on Balder Succes or Cue Card but AL thinks Johns Spirit is good value.
Both TM and KR are very much in favour of Don Cossack calling him one of the best bets of the meeting.
Champion Hurdle:
KR questions Faugheens jumping at times and while he and AL reckon he’s been impressive but is very short PR says there’s no holes to him and TM described him as “home and hosed”.
The New One has not impressed PR and KR with his last run especially and both think Jezki may be regressing based on this seasons form against Hurricane Fly but GOB expects him to be in the top 3.
PR thinks Hurricane Fly at 8/1 is great ew value while AL and TM said the same for Arctic Fire at 14/1.
KR feels the ground is crucial to Hurricane Fly’s chances, slow ground and a stamina test is his best chance rather than quick ground and a speed test.
World Hurdle:
Conflicting accounts as to whether Annie Power will run in this or the Mares Hurdle. AL thinks she will run here and expects her to win if so. TM expects her to go the Mares route.
PR says More of That holds no value at 5/1 but he and KR think Saphir du Rheu has a fantastic chance. He also thinks Zarkander and Rock on Ruby won’t see out the trip.
TM thinks Reve de Sivola is the one to beat.
TM and KR like Lieutenant Colonel and Dedigout with the latter being more ground dependant.
AL and GOB both think Whisper is the dark horse in the race.
Gold Cup:
All big no’s for Holywell, KR will “eat his bollox if he wins a Gold Cup”.
KR, AL and TM think Many Clouds holds an excellent chance but PR thinks he’s focussed more on the Grand National. The only concern is quick ground for KR.
TM thinks Silvianaco Conti is the best horse in the race but PR, ALand KR both think he won’t stay up the hill and is best on flatter tracks.
Foxrock if supplemented has a great chance feel TM and KR.
All 4 think Carlingford Lough has no chance while KR and AL both like Road to Riches, TM says he has no chance.
Other Races Day 1:
Glens Melody ew or w/o Annie Power (KR and AL)
The Young Master in the 4 Miler (KR)
Gallant Oscar a great ew chance ™
Annie Power will go off evens for the Mares Race (PR)
Other Races Day 2:
Cassels Rock borderline but would have a great chance in the Coral Cup, Quick Jack in the County Hurdle is the surprise package & Thunder Zone in the Fred Winter ™
Pylonthepressure in the Bumper (PR)
Vigil in good form and will have Smullen on board, Bordini has been impressive (KR)
Other Races Day 3:
Mydor an ew shout in the Pertemps, Rivage D’or an ew chance in the Cross Country & Sraid Padraig has a good chance he jumps and travels well ™
Ned Buntline in the Grand Annual (AL & TM)
Other Races Day 4:
Salsify in the Foxhunters (KR)
Some races in the last 4 parts may not be in the right day so apologies if that is the case. Lot of information there so hopefully some of it is helpful in picking some winners.
Beat That ruled out of the World Hurdle
The value of Cheltenham Preview nights was in full swing last night at The Star preview with Davy Russell tipping a horse for the Triumph Hurdle that isn’t even entered in it.
still too early for those preview nights…
this Douvan is being talked of as the second coming…
[QUOTE=“Kid Chocolate, post: 1096924, member: 553”]still too early for those preview nights…
this Douvan is being talked of as the second coming…[/QUOTE]
Yep agree. Is he a Vautour or a Cousin Vinny?