Comrade Patty Cosgrove - Irish Hero

Thatā€™s a very interesting graph, and impressive if true. I clearly remember that income inequality grew during the Celtic tiger. If so, did it narrow so much in the two decades before that it produced that result? Iā€™m a bit dubious. Then of course there is what happened after 2010.

When was Ireland great @Fulvio_From_Aughnacloy?

Never as itā€™s been ran by two corrupt parties since its inception.

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But you keep saying that they have destroyed the country. Surely there was something great then to destroy, when was that?

There was a six month extension at the start of the first lockdown, which if trends were as normal, allowed about 2 million unroadworthy cars to stay driving. The MOT is basically a dirt cheap way of checking your car is safe to drive. Itā€™s not pernickety like the NCT. I spose you get lads trying to find reasons to pass it rather than reasons to fail it. You get an outright fail if itā€™s bad, and you need a retest, but mostly you get advisorys, which donā€™t need a retest. Itā€™s a better system, supportive rather than punitive. One of the few things that are better on the mainland.

You say that, but would driving a car with no NCT not mean she was in effect driving without insurance?

They had opportunities to make Ireland a very progressive and fair country. Instead the FFG timeline of rule over the state has shown they have taken the ultimate reckless, corrupt short term decisions to provide and solve social issues. The provision of services, the use of national resources have been handed over to the private sector, to profit on, for a song. It has ruined health, it has caused a huge housing problem, it caused a catastrophic financial crisis in the banking sector which generations will have to pay of for decades. It has left a chaotic and not fit for purpose public service.

They had a blank canvas and made a mess of it through greed and incompetence.

When you hear the likes of @Julio_Geordio paying ā‚¬13 for a burger from a van (without chips) you know there is too much wealth in Ireland. A Joe Kennedy and the shoeshine boy moment.

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You say ruined health, but when was health great? When the Church ran it? They are actually trying to take full public control of one hospital now, where is the privatisation?

Historically, where else? CIƉ was the merger of various private operators. Eircom? Are you saying things were better when you had to wait months to get a telephone connection? There was no issues getting a house in the 2000s, before the State took more control of the market.

All you are doing is lifting a Jeremy Corbyn line from the U.K., itā€™s lazy.

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I paid ā‚¬14.50 for a burger, chips and 2 cans of soft drink below in the treehouse a few weeks ago. As the buff would say it was glorious.

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The health systems is shambolic. They had a blank canvas, they clearly ruined health. They have had a free run here, have shared control for the past century and led it to this point.

The public service is utterly shambolic, they have sold off natural resources like the Shell gasline, motorway toll charges I believe, telecommunication networks, electricity supply etc etc - decades of corruption. They have left the provision of housing to the private sector with decades of corruption involved. They have continued to use the private sector to look after health so Denis Oā€™Brien and Larry Goodman can profit and make basic healthcare completely unaffordable to a lot of people.

They are now in a position when they are bent over by large MNCs who simply have them by the balls and will have to do what they are told or they could pull the pin at any second. Governments should rule, but through the policies of FFG they are now puppets for MNCS.

What have FFG actually achieved in power?

Are you saying inefficient public service is not in the remit of government to sort out. Thatā€™s what you clearly seem too stupid to understand. If we have a not fit for purpose public sector then thatā€™s the governmentā€™s fault and itā€™s the governmentā€™s responsibility to address.

Whatā€™s the govt response? Hawk it off to the private sector in a shady deal, deregulate it, screw the taxpayer who get purged as a result, lose the commercial base and control over taxbase and employment and its not their problem anymore. The FFG has always been the short term one where they screw the citizen over as they donā€™t want to commit to fixing the issue and can profit in some nefarious way in a shady deal.

You could always emigrate from this hellhole to a more Corbyn friendly location like Venezuela. Even though itā€™s ranked 174th out of 177 counties for broadband speed, the 3.91 mbps should not impede your debating too much.

Thereā€™s a lass from Venezuela at a place I work.
She does CrossFit, is a lovely person, and is absolutely smoking hot.

:joy::joy::joy::joy:

The Venezuelans are extremely good looking women. Thereā€™s an awful lot of Venezuelans in Ireland illegally, through little fault of their own. I think we should grant them all permanent residence.

By almost every metric, Ireland is one of the best places in the world to live and the change in life circumstances for citizens over the last 100 years is truly dramatic.

Thatā€™s not to dismiss some of the ongoing issues, particularly at times in health and recently in housing or to say that Ireland (or any country) shouldnā€™t be trying to improve the lot of all its citizens but it is to put it in some sort of context.

However, for you to ignore the facts though and continuously try and portray Ireland as some sort of failed state makes it easy to dismiss you as (another) yappy crank. Itā€™s no wonder I suppose (in some effort to drag it back to the thread title) that youā€™ve got your tongue up Paddy Cā€™s hole

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Theyā€™ve accidentally ended up here illegally?

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The Aquaduct??

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