any plans to move the sigerson cup to June given its status
No, the students will be in the USA by then
Play it in the USA and rename it the College Football Shamrock Bowl. Problem solved. And another opportunity for a junket.
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Didnt comment on this at the time, but can someone explain to me how the Super 8 thing in its proposed format is a hindrance to club players? Am I missing something here?
Whatever about the merit of it on its own and the disadvantages there may be to county teams and the rich get richer, how does it affect clubs? Championships involving teams who get to quarter finals generally never play any rounds of championship in July/August anyway, so I dont see how that changes things. The only impact the congress had really on club issues was playing finals earlier. Which is surely a good thing. Its a shame the CPA didnt get through, but it seems that it was never a runner in the way they have set themselves up and Iâd imagine they will be in a better position next year to have themselves set up properly.
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It suits the dubs to a T, with the deeper squad. The bigger the county, the more itâll suit them.
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To be fair the only way that I can see it being a hindrance to club players is that youâll have eight squads playing at least three games in August so the players will be out on their legs for a couple of weeks.
That utter cunt Bernard Flynn on was 2FM last night again arguing for a two tier All Ireland SFC - Tier 1 being NFL D1 & 2 and Tier 2 being D3&D4.
RTE are hardly featuring anyone speaking against the introduction of the Super 8 to the point where itâs embarrassing. If the GAA really wanted to improve the standard of the latter stages of the competition, without betraying the hard work that all county panels put in, they would have went with the Laois (I think) proposal to have the first round of the qualifiers played as round robin in June.
Anytime they (RTE) discuss they conveniently ignore the fact that all this is going to do it give the stronger counties more games and stop shocks happening in the knock out format of the latter stages of the All Ireland. Iâm sick of hearing that 'this will mean the best teams are making it to the semis. If theyâre not good enough in the quarter finals then theyâre not one of the best teams in it.
that may be. As I mentioned, the merits of it on an intercounty value is questionable as the rich get richer. But I am just wondering about the club aspect of it.
yup, the merits of it as an intercounty venture are what they are. The biggest issue in all of this is the retention of the provincial series. Its an antiquated format that does not lend itself to a fair and equal championship. Regardless of what anyone says, its far easier for Kerry to get to a quarter final than it is for Tyrone. I know I could be opening a can of nembo worms with that statement, but itâs true.
Ah here.
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A team drawn in the preliminary round of the Ulster championship must now play a minimum of nine games to win the All-Ireland.
Thereâs a heavy anti-Ulster bias in the new format.
Tyrone, for instance, could face the following path to win an All-Ireland:
Armagh
Cavan
Monaghan
Donegal
Cork
Dublin
Mayo
Kerry
Dublin
Whereas Kerry might face the following path to win an All-Ireland:
Waterford
Tipperary
Roscommon
Kildare
Galway
Tyrone
Dublin
Disgrace!
And not a word about how hypocritical it was from the GAA given the strong stance that was taken against player burnout a few years back.
@Gman, I made the same point at the weekend. The âclub football RIPâ posts from county players donât stack up as the inter-county season is being condensed and the All Ireland final will be played a month earlier. If theyâve a cogent and coherent argument about why this new structure is worse for the club player then theyâve yet to articulate it properly. If their argument is that is doesnât really change things for the club player to a material extent then that might have some merit but, again, I havenât heard the specifics from them.
Dermot Earley speaking about the playersâ view being ignored is disingenuous. As mentioned, the GPA came out against the proposals in late February - a week before congress and after most county board had been mandated which way to vote - even though the proposal was published by Duffy last August.
What exactly is it that theyâre wanting? Club championship games to be run off in tandem with the All Ireland championships in the middle of summer?
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Every club player, upwardly mobile businessman type, poor oulâ fella, priest, imam, housewife, working mother, non-married woman, stoner student, stoner non-student, child, dog on the street, and cat on the street in Mayo wanted club championship games cancelled when they were originally scheduled for the gap between the All-Ireland semi-final and final last year.
Disgrace!
pretty much same as that. Iâm confused as to why this is an issue on the club player and why they are coming out moaning about it but not saying what the problem is. Having the club provincials potentially starting a month earlier is surely a good thing, as long as that also comes into effect with the AI series ending sooner. If the provincials do not start earlier, then it makes fuck all difference as a club winning their county in September but not getting out til November isnt wort a shite. County finals for the most part run into the provincial series, so end up being geared towards the start date of that.
Iâm not a holocaust denier mate.
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Sweep, sweep.
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Club players are getting puffed up on their own self importance, with every clown in the media and the likes of @Raylan telling them they are the heart and soul of the association. They are, of course, in their bollix. In reality they are 15 fellows pulled out of their beds on a Sunday morning, in various states of comedown from the night before.
With the advent of development squads in almost every county the connection between club and county players is becoming increasingly tenuous and club activity is becoming more and more of a nuisance for the county player, who is now more or less the be All and end all of the association.
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The biggest joke was Eugene McGee on DriveTime last night giving out about the loss of tradition by moving the All-Ireland finals to August and the fact that weâd be taking GAA out of the shop window for the entirety of the Month of September. He even said 'lot of people go on holidays during August at one stage. These people obviously donât watch the quarter and semi finals.
By moving the finals forward at least that will leave the Co Championships move on a month earlier in most counties and there wonât be the ridiculous situation of playing Co Finals in November and December if Co Boards sort themselves out.
Thatâs a lovely quaint recollection of your playing days Fagan. Always nice to wander down memory lane just to see how things used to be.
Spot on.
Once you introduced development squads under age and all that goes with that, then logical next step is to play club games without IC players.
Ultimately it is a hobby and people are getting way too het up about it. Play or donât play but the fetishisation of GAA club players is becoming ridiculous.
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