There isnāt much we can do about structures, I was fucking depressed myself starting back this year thinking about how far away the proposed championship date was, and still no idea of a second round.
Make training āfunā is a bit of a misnomer Iād argue. Any fella that wants to do something at senior will want hard sessions. It doesnāt have to be stone-age stuff, but there still needs to be an edge to it if you have any bit of a competitive animal within them, and players respond to that and drive each other on if they get it.
Ah ffs lads. That demographic has been gone and back and replenished. Ya some clubs were more affected than others no doubt, but just more lazy excuses. In many of these places the soccer team survived or anything else survived.
If 7 lads leave, put in 7 more and build again. Last year when with a Senior team i regularly played 6 Minors between starting and coming on. It turned put to be an oppurtunity to build. By the time i left training numbers were from 7/8 up to 24/25. Not so much the coaching, just organisation. And 1 player managed to ruin all that because there is an inherant weakness in the club.
This is the major problem with older lads in the GAA. Encapsulated right there.
You have to die to have trained hard.
There is nothing i can do for you, you are beyond cure.
Iād love to have to player making conveyor belt you have.
We won a minor a few years back and 7 of them are abroad full time. They never came back and never will.
We have 5 minors involved to varying levels with the senior team this year.
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Ya it happens. Still 20 more between 16 & 18 coming behind them.
Classic examples all over the shop of the GAAās under appreciation of participation. If you provide games and keep guys invlolved somewhere down the road they may become senior players.
You mentioned a winning Minor team. But what about all the other Minor teams? Just because they didnāt win are they discarded?
Our soccer club is fucked as well if that makes you feel better? We just have a big giant sized hole where the 23-29 age group should be, and the younger fellas have shown none of the desire to put in the commitment senior football requires.
Maybe thereās is just too much of an age gap in the team with the missing generation.
No one is discarded. We fielded over 30 players one of the seasons I was with the junior team.
You seem to live in a bit of an ideal world bubble, without appreciating the very real difficulties that small clubs face. Very quick to run everyone else down and assume they are doing it wrong.
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Thats because ye have not worked hard or smart enough. Ye gave up. Ye felt sorry for yourselves.
I have no sympathy.
As a leader or a coach or a Chairman you take on all the responsibility.
If your team does not play the way you want them to - its your fault.
If there are players in the parish who could play and donāt - its your fault
And so on and so on. Its just modern adults not willing or wanting to do the hard work and take on the actual responsibility. Its all about winning or having a chance of winning, and if thats not there then fuck it, why bother. Why bother developinh the next group, they were no good at minor.
Of cpurse a bit of critical think might change that, but thats rare i GAA clubs.
Thatās a deliberate misrepresentation of what I said. To take a rugby example, when Jonny Sexton came back from France, he talked about the culture having slipped at Leinster. Iād be pretty sure it wasnāt that it wasnāt fun enough anymore. Top teams work hard, thereās nothing ludicrous about stating that. Itās the flip-dude of what youāve said yourself about the Cork lads being told theyāre talented. Talent only gets you some of the way there.
Thatās the biggest load of bollox I have ever read. Get down of your fucking high horse.
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Iām just going by what you are saying, ye seem to give up or feel sorry for yourselves abput it. Thats what i am getting. You live in a town with 2 clubs joined together with a pick probably 4 times the size of mine. I know exactly how small clubs work, my parish geographically is the smallest in Ireland. Now the pop. has increased but its still far smaller than where ye are from.
Maybe its just i am at it a hell of alot longer.
No, you are saying it shouldnāt be fun. I am saying the new generation demand that.
It doesnāt mean you donāt have a good culture or you donāt train hard. But its still got to be fun. You will only retain the fliaters and the multi aports guys for a year or two max if its not fun.
Itās not two clubs joined in the normal sense. Its one parish with a separate hurling club and a separate football club both pulling from the same relatively small pool of players.
Thats you choosing to be offended, just like raylan and gman and everyone else who pipes up. Instead of listening to whats being said ye clam up in defensiveness.There are plenty lads here who know what i am saying and just donāt go on about it.
Its in the GAA psyche to feel sorry for ourselves and look for excuses. Well it is in alot of places anyway.
āForum thinkā i think iāll call it 
I donāt think itās people getting defensive, itās more you being extremely preachy. As I said above, I was genuinely interested in your take on it. Yet you seemed to take it as an insult when I asked for specific examples instead of generic statements and got all high and mighty about it.
I always find you an interesting read Kev, but you talk some serious shit at times.
On about if you canāt do this or that itās your fault, and about 5 posts above itās someone elseās fault, or is that you falling into the GAA psyche to feel sorry for yourself and look for excuses?
I gave you endless examples
Ya after I asked, peppered with plenty of barbs about how āweā were ignorant and doing it wrong (despite me not being doing anything ).
Just relax. Donāt be so condescending in getting your point across . Seems to be a good spread of coaches from various levels and grades with various degrees of experience and success (some with probably a lot more than yourself).
Yes, and i actualy detailed that exact example here sometime this year. I held it up as a major mistake i made. Probably in the coaches thread. I didnāt see it coming, i underestimated the changes that had happened in the club when i was away. The club had got weaker and weaker.
You see i am not afraid of mistakes or taking responsibility for them. Or indeed talking about them.