Coronavirus - Dig In, It's going to be a while yet

They may be protected by the constitution but when the President of America consistently brandishes anything painting him negatively as “fake news”, that’s a form of censorship. Its shutting down one side of the story.

I didn’t equate different forms of censorship, you projected that.
I didnt defend human rights abuse, you projected that.
Human rights abuse is despicable wherever it happens.

I just choose not to believe a border line conspiracy theory piece from a US agency reporting on Chinese matters.

Same as I wouldn’t believe a Chinese piece reporting on U.S affairs

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She’s a pain in the hole

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Us over here in the UK are seething we didn’t get an honourable mention.

Not a superpower, the US little brother

I think you will find regarding lies we are.

What’s really come home to roost is the capitalist idea of making people stupid through media, though it has been coming home to roost for years.

English language countries are bedevilled with this, though it’s certainly not exclusive to them. Ireland, like New Zealand and Canada gets away relaatively lightly in comparison to their bigger neighbours.

But the US, UK and Australia in that order, all have appalling problems with right-wing media that has turned large sections of their populations into selfish, individualistic, materialistic, education-rejecting, passive (against untrammeled corporate power) yet reactionary (against the marginalised) racist cunts.

This was specifically the goal of Rupert Murdoch who dominates the media in all three of those countries and it has been the goal of the Republicans, the Tories and the Australian Liberal party. We all know about Fox and the myriad of right-wing propaganda media in the US and UK, but so much daily programming on both TV and radio is designed to promote stupidity and vacuousness and the internet ramps the cult of the vacuous self up to an interminable level.

It feeds into everything. Rejection of science, rejection of reason, rejection of truth, rejection of a commonality of humanity, rejection of empathy. They call it “the marketplace of ideas”, which means that stupid, abhorrent or plain wrong opinions all have equal validity and equal “truth” to expertise, reason and actual truth.

It’s how we got Brexit and Trump, it’s how we get the rejection of acknowledging the climate crisis, it’s how we got the rejection of dealing with COVID-19 because "the economy. It’s how we get all sorts of charlatanism which offers no hopeful view of the world, only a dystopian one filled with constant existential threat. The right-wing charlatans manufacture fake existential threats which they push relentlessly - they blame immigrants for everything, they blame the EU, they blame “liberals”, they blame “spongers”, but when two real existential threats come along - the climate crisis and COVID-19, they call them hoaxes or treat them with far less seriousness than they treat the fake threats.

The utter vapidity of right-wing politics and the cruelty and sadism that is at the heart of it has been laid bare. Intentionally sacrificing hundreds of thousands of people (many of whom voted for right-wing parties, incidentally) to the ideology of the “market” is a fitting and inevitable denouement for such a rotten and evil ideology.

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The opposition to Trump is alive and well mate, tune in to MSNBC or CNN every night and you will get the other side of the story. There is no shutting down one side of the story, unless media outlets have been taken off the air while I was typing this. Do you actually watch any US media?, Trump took about 10 questions from Jim Acosta yesterday, who is the most anti Trump reporter you could imagine. If Trump wanted to control the narrative he would only have Fox News at his press conferences.

There is nothing conspiratorial about the CCP shutting down any criticism of it, or people disappearing who don’t get the message the first time round. That’s not based on anything I read in the media, it’s based on talking to people who have lived in China and fled the place.

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Apparently MSNBC and CNN are the US Government now.

At least according to the Chloroqueen.

Fox news appeared in the news section of my dodgybox yesterday so more entertainment for the working day. The ads during the day are almost all lawyers advertising compo services (the boyscouts of america one was a little surreal) and pills or some other class of quackery with the odd copper pan set thrown in.

Labane, mate, Trump takes questions from everybody. He just doesn’t answer them in any helpful or informative manner, even the softball ones he gets from this OOAN crowd - he still sounds like a street corner wino on a non-stop rant. He’s not censoring the media though, just frustrating the shit out of them which will play to his unshakable base and see him a long way to a second term all depending on where the world is whenever.

You’re obviously a media hound and have said (correct me if I’m wrong) that you do not support Trump. How should the non-Fox media be dealing with him in your opinion bearing in mind that asking him questions, especially anything requiring detail, nuance or intellect, is useless for the reason I said above.

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Sid’s getting worked up again.

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Dangerous times.

When did it become acceptable to call it coronavirus on tv? Not a coronavirus or a codename. Just coronavirus

They should report the news and comment or give opinion on it. All the news, not just the news that is negative toward Trump. There’s plenty to criticize and even condemn Trump for but there’s also occasions where they have deliberately refused to carry anything that might be positive towards him, such as economic news over the past 3.5 years. That’s not journalism, that’s political activism.

It is a coronavirus, although it’s not specific enough to just call it that. I suppose SARS-Cov-1 is a bit of a mouthful.

Covid 19. They aren’t saying a coronavirus. They’ve named it coronavirus on british and Irish tv anyway, mostly

Woman nearby me died this evening from it. She was in her 80s I’d say or close to it. She and her two sons were in Spain about a month ago and came back before it got as serious as it is now. Only got symptoms two weeks after and she was in Icu. One son was hospitalized with it and the other was OK, didn’t affect him badly, just in isolation at home. Speaking to a relative and they don’t know what’s going to happen with having a funeral. Awfully sad.

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Covid-19 is not the name of the virus.

That’s awful, these stories are heartbreaking.

It’s the name of the disease

Probably 2 brand new medical ships to be built now. How long do they take to build?