We have all but officialy turned the corner, I don’t mean just pubs but the approach in general. There has been a quantifiable shift this week, expect to see politicians falling over themselves saying they were pro OIUTF all along
It was kind of a rhetorical question cos I think you’re pro one and anti the other. It was kind of a genuine one too though as I’d be interested to know what you think as you seem to have a good knowledge of the whole thing and obviously are interested as your livelihood depends on it.
None whatsoever as none of them (politicians) have the slightest clue what to do, they got it hopelessly wrong at the beginning (except for Trump’s half hearted travel ban) and then have spent their days since trying to convince everyone they know what they are doing. Whether left, right or centrist all western governments got it wrong. You could make an argument for Germany, they seem to have protected their elderly better than most.
The story of Covid 19 is quite simple. It raced through densely populated areas from January through March and killed all those it was likely to kill. By the time lockdowns were imposed it had done most of its damage. It’s been spreading through less densely populated areas since then but now people are wide to it, dodging it as best they can, and even if they get it, it isn’t that bad.
It’s the biggest clusterfuck since WWI. The global economy destroyed by a bunch of fuckwits you wouldn’t put in charge of a U10 camogie team.
80% of cases that go into ICU now in Oireland make it out again (one of the best rates in the World btw, the hospitals ain’t all bad).
I’d say it was the other way around at the start. That alone makes a massive difference
There is no doubt that treatment has improved as we learned more, I think a lot of people were being killed by over aggressive use of ventilators early on. The people who are dying are still in the same categories though.
Actually I know of a leaving cert student in Dublin who is in a wheelchair, possibly for life, because of the nerve damage that was done to him by a ventilator treating his covid19. Sounds like a tall story but this is what I’ve been told. I’ve also been told that this guy us a serious worrier, freaking out about everything and the guy who knows him suspects that he over-reacted when he got the disease first.
The mortality rates early on for people put on ventilators was staggering, it was as high as 80% of patients in New York in April. How many of those would have died anyway is unknown, but they sure didn’t keep that many stay alive. More gentle ventilation just with an oxygen mask seems to be more of the norm now. There’s also the issue of the toxicity due to the drugs administered for intubation, lots of reports of kidney damage.
If you go on a ventilator in your 80s for anything you most likely are not coming off it.
This is from pre Covid
Only a quarter of intubated patients go home from the hospital. Most survivors, 63 percent, go elsewhere, presumably to nursing facilities. The study doesn’t address whether they face short rehab stays or become permanent residents.