Coup in Turkey

What’s your source for that mate?

It doesn’t make political or economic sense…be like the south Armagh brigade attacking fucking Louth during the troubles :grin:

Erdogan is neither pro nor anti ISIS. If there is to be an Islamic state he wants to head it.
He’s happy to sell their oil and let them keep the Kurds in check. He supports their war against Assad but if he’s on anyones side it’s the so called “moderate rebels” if such a group exists at all. The last thing he wants is a strong Islamic state on his border (or a strong Kurdish one for that matter, or a strong Syrian one led by Assad).
ISIS feel he isn’t doing enough to help the Islamic state and he cracked down on them a bit around the time of that bombing. Of course he could have easily organised the bombing himself, you couldn’t put anything beyond him.
The whole mess suits him to an extent. He ultimately wants a revived Ottoman Empire, so the weaker his neighbours are the better.

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Erdogan is only playing up to the west…he has a serious agenda, makes Gaddafi look like Mother Theresa.

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Ould Gaddafi was misunderstood the crature, what the West would give to have him back now :smirk:

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What happened to Gaddafi was disgraceful…most of the refugees are coming through Libya now which obviously is just a pure coincidence.

Turkey have something like 2.5 million refugees backed by EU money…the awful thing is I wouldn’t let the cunts look after a dog …how can those misfortunes not get radicalised…they have nothing else.

The world is mad.

The West needed people like Saadam, Gadaffi and Assad. Keeping a lid on it all.

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True. Mubarak and Hussein (Jordan), were also left in place for a long long time doing their job.

Turkey has voted to enable Erdogan’s Enabling Act.

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NOGRA forever

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The state of the jacket on Erdogan yesterday. Is he a roaster?

Post reported. The bossman won’t stand for this.

The whole thing is lowryesque.
I suspect the whole thing boiled down to redneck fundamentalists vs the rest, and the rednecks won.
Bit like brexit.
Generations of Turks will rue this, as the country begins the slide into sharia law

What’s the guts of this story, pal? - He’s been leading his people up the garden path of late, making it look like the rest of Europe is anti - Turk where the truth is we have always been anti - Turk.

Turkey terrifies Europe. It will terrify them a lot more in the next few years. It’s not even erdogan himself, it’s what he has opened the door to. The Muslim brotherhood are the de facto leaders of Turkey now.

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It’s all about him @flattythehurdler. He is and will be the total ruler until he kicks the bucket. The guy has a serious Jesus complex if you will. The giant castle palace to live in, the massive vanity projects to be remembered by. This shit is done now though. He’s won, unless he gets assassinated.

On the plus side this could mean an exodus of Turks to Ireland, leading to a rise in the standard of kebab shops to suit the more adventurous Turkish palate rather than the conservative Irish one.

The Muslim Brotherhood getting the reins could be considered a win in the broad scheme of Middle Eastern events at present. They want to embrace Western science and society with a view the modernising the Islamic world without becoming Westernised themselves. Our head chopping allies in the Arabian desert, by contrast, intend to destroy Western civilisation in its entirety.

What Erdogan’s undertaking is a power grab. While anti-democratic there is no danger of an ‘Islamic state’ in Turkey. As I understand it, Erdogan’s own support base is built on the successful economic reforms of the AKP. ‘Islamifying’ the state would be economically disastrous and would destroy Erdogan’s own party. Turkey is basically a functioning state despite its flaws. It’s not like Iraq after the Americans flattened it and put the kids of Heritage Foundation donors in charge of government departments. There’s no vacuum for the Salafists to fill.

Iran was a functioning state until relatively recently. Erdogan is a psychopath.

While not Isis style Erdogan has very much championed the reversing of Turkeys long history of secularisation towards a more religiously conservative country. More of a Sultan than a religious zealot though. That’s the end of Turkey and the EU for now.
Russia staring down a fragmented Middle East while Europe isn’t sure which side they are on. The more things change etc

Em, it’s a functioning state currently, mate.

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