Cromwell

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Two part RT docu-drama starts tonight. Promises to be good but you never know with these things.

At least it’s a dramatisation. A plain documentary would probably spend too long on what Cromwell was responsible for and what is successors were responsible for etc. This will just focus on what happened hopefully.

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I don’t know what radio program I was listening to but there was a guy on who wrote a book saying that Cromwell has been wrongly recorded as a butcher and a killer of women and children, that his generals/chaps in command did it. That records show that he was just an ordinary solider over in England but became a monster over in Ireland. He couldn’t understand why. Plus the guy was from Drogheda so he had nothing to gain from it.

Don’t know all the ins and outs about Cromwell, only that he and his troops set up camp in our town for a couple of days. Look forward to this show.

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Was going to post on this last week but slipped my mind.

Good to see RTE go back pre 1916 for a bit of history. There is a mound of stuff they could make from before that time…

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[quote=“Locke”]I don’t know what radio program I was listening to but there was a guy on who wrote a book saying that Cromwell has been wrongly recorded as a butcher and a killer of women and children, that his generals/chaps in command did it. That records show that he was just an ordinary solider over in England but became a monster over in Ireland. He couldn’t understand why. Plus the guy was from Drogheda so he had nothing to gain from it.

Don’t know all the ins and outs about Cromwell, only that he and his troops set up camp in our town for a couple of days. Look forward to this show.[/quote]

Know that guy - can’t remember his name, Tom something maybe? Anyway he’s widely discredited.

The speeches and writings of Cromwell would tell you that:

  • he hated Roman Catholics
  • he boasted of leaving no resistor alive in Drogheda
  • he didn’t have a problem with mass killings
  • he had a “thing” about Ireland, he saw Ireland as the biggest threat to his soldiers even before he came here

And whether he killed or whether soldiers under his command and instructions killed is a moot point really.

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[quote=“therock67”]Know that guy - can’t remember his name, Tom something maybe? Anyway he’s widely discredited.

The speeches and writings of Cromwell would tell you that:

  • he hated Roman Catholics
  • he boasted of leaving no resistor alive in Drogheda
  • he didn’t have a problem with mass killings
  • he had a “thing” about Ireland, he saw Ireland as the biggest threat to his soldiers even before he came here

And whether he killed or whether soldiers under his command and instructions killed is a moot point really.[/quote]

I agree. He sounded like a tin roofer alright. But the fact that I know so little about the subject I can’t give an opinion about it. I’d say though that the towns of Wexford and Drogheda would have a thing or two to say about Cromwell.

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There’s a housing estate in Wexford town called Cromwell’s Fort and frankly it disgusts me. I wish bad things on anyone who has the temerity to live there.

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I have the misfortune of having the house I was reared in built on the grounds where Cromwell and his troops camped the night before the battle at Vinegar Hill.

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the wexicans wanted to surrender & then sent cromwell wine & beer:p

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Handed to us by the Kilkenny people who pissed in the gunpowder!!

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I thought Vineger hill was to do with 1798. Was there a battle there also with Crowellian troops.

(this conversation was done while taking a slash in some gunpowder, ahhhggghhhhh!!)

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