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Di Luca furious over doping scandal
Thursday, 27 September 2007 21:27

Danilo Di Luca has branded the situation a ‘scandal’ after withdrawing from the World Cycling Championships in Stuttgart.

On Thursday the Italian Olympic Committee (CONI) recommended a four-month ban for the Giro d’Italia winner, who was due to compete in the elite men’s road race on Sunday, following a doping investigation by the body.

‘It is a scandal,’ said Di Luca on Thursday. 'I’m going home on the eve of the world championship without being able to defend myself.

‘Tomorrow (the Court of Arbitration for Sport) is closed and I cannot appeal.’

Before CONI’s decision was announced, Susanne Eisenmann, Stuttgart’s sports commissioner, had opened court proceedings to keep Di Luca from competing in the city.

She also hopes to prevent his compatriot and defending road race champion Paolo Bettini from racing because the Italian refuses to sign the International Cycling Union’s anti-doping pledge.

Astana

Here’s hoping Astana aren’t participating in Le Tour next year. As a poster on justcycling said no doubt Bruyneel will say he is going to Astana to help them clean up their act. Would give me great satisfaction if he got Bruynell, Contador and Leipheimer got caught out:
Contador set to seal Astana move

Contador has never failed a doping test and denies any wrongdoing
Tour de France winner Alberto Contador is poised to join the scandal-hit Astana team for next year after his Discovery Channel outfit disbanded.
Discovery’s Johan Bruyneel is set to take up the manager’s role at Astana, which withdrew from the Tour de France after a string of doping scandals.

“I’ve spoken with Johan Bruyneel and lacking only a few details, I’ll go with him to Astana,” Contador said.

“It is clear that the new Astana has nothing to do with the old team.”

Former team leader Alexandre Vinokourov was dismissed by Astana after he tested positive for blood doping.

And two other riders from the team, Andrej Kashechkin and Matthias Kessler, have also failed doping tests this year.

I didn’t receive any offers from Spain - I would have liked it

Alberto Contador

Astana, who are Kazakh-sponsored but based in Switzerland, took a month out of competition after the Tour de France and were not invited to race in the Tour of Spain.

The tarnished Tour de France, which also saw race leader Michael Rasmussen withdrawn for lying about his whereabouts to drugs testers, was blamed for the Discovery team’s failure to secure a new sponsor.

Spaniard Contador himself was forced to deny any involvement in doping after he was linked to the Operation Puerto scandal, although he was cleared of wrongdoing.

“I’ve received various offers from important teams. I didn’t receive any offers from Spain. I would have liked it but I can only hope for next time,” he said.

Contador would have to work alongside Andreas Kloeden, who was co-leader at Astana with Vinokourov during this year’s Tour.

Bruyneel, who managed Lance Armstrong to seven straight Tour titles from 1999-2005, had initially said he was retiring at the end of the season.

But he now looks set to move to Astana, and Spanish media say he will also bring Levi Leipheimer with him.

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That’s just an evil team. Contador would have his pick of teams so why join the tainted one? He’s up to his neck in it and so is Bruyneel obviously. Hope Le Tour don’t invite them.

Re: Giro d’Italia

Giro d’Italia winner banned for doping
Tuesday, 16 October 2007 13:08
Giro d’Italia winner Danilo Di Luca has been given a three-month ban for doping offences, the Italian Olympic Committee (CONI) said.

The 31-year-old was suspended after a hearing at the Rome offices of CONI, the governing body for all sport in Italy, for his links with Carlo Santuccione, a doctor accused of supplying doping products to athletes.

The ruling means the ProTour leader, who denies any wrongdoing, will miss the competition’s last race of the season, Saturday’s Giro di Lombardia in northern Italy.

Di Luca was forced to pull out of the road cycling world championships in Stuttgart just three days before they started last month, after CONI’s anti-doping chief Ettore Torri charged the Liquigas rider.

Torri had asked for a four-month ban.

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Theres more drugs in cycling than wrestling. Jaysus

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Seems a very short ban. His rise to the top this year has all the indications that he doped.

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It’s a very short ban because they didn’t catch him doing anything other than associating with banned persons. He didn’t test positive - though I think he nearly did.

I think you’re just jealous though because I picked him out as the Giro winner before the start at 10/1 or something.

Re:Tour De France 2007 Preview

Some fairly hefty changes for next year’s Tour:

Tour de France given 2008 revamp

Spain’s Alberto Contador won the crisis-hit Tour this year
The 2008 Tour de France will have five mountain stages - including three in the Alps - and no time bonuses.
A year after the Tour opened in London, the prologue has been scrapped and the first stage returns to its roots with three days in Brittany.

And for the first time since 1967, the Tour will not start with a time trial. Instead, there will be a full road stage from Brest to Plumele.

A brutal climb up L’Alpe d’Huez follows ahead of the showpiece finish in Paris.

Changes to the Tour’s opening are designed to give more riders rather than just time-trial experts the chance to compete for the leader’s coveted yellow jersey from the very start.

Time bonuses being abandoned could lead to a tighter and more dramatic Tour, especially in the high mountains where decisive gaps between riders are often built early on.

Competition director Jean-Francois Pescheux said: "The first week will not necessarily be the exclusive property of the sprinters.

"The end of the first stage, for example, is a two-kilometre slope. So a great finisher can win but also a sprinter or a rider who broke away earlier in the stage.

“We want the Tour to rediscover its romanticism. It means the plot will not be obvious.”

The competitors will also scale Europe’s highest mountain pass; the 2,802-metre Col de la Bonette-Restefond.

It was last climbed by the Tour in 1993 and is one of 19 major mountain passes that riders will clamber over - two less than in 2007.

The Tour begins on 5 July and will cover 3,550 kilometres (2,200 miles), with 21 stages and two rest days.

The two time trials will be on day four and the penultimate day, to establish the finishing order before the race concludes with its habitual processional ride to the Champs-Elysees on 27 July.

The overhaul is an effort to restore the Tour’s battered image following the drugs scandals that marred last year’s race.

No rider will be allowed to start next year without agreeing to take part in a series of tests that will allow drug-testers to build a blood profile for each athlete.

If follow-up tests show significant changes to that profile - which could be caused by drug use - riders may be barred from racing.

Prudhomme called the measures “real progress in the fight against doping”.

Teams are also no longer guaranteed entry, even if they are in possession of a ProTour license.

BBC Radio 5 Live’s Peter Slater commented: “That could cause problems for the Astana squad, who left in disgrace last summer after their star rider Alexandre Vinokourov tested positive.”

Astana have signed 2007 winner Alberto Contador.

Jean-Francois Pescheux, another senior Tour official, added: "We’re setting off with good hope. We have to, because otherwise cycling is heading for catastrophe.

“If the 2008 season is a repeat of 2007 and 2006, it’s the end of cycling and I think everyone is aware of that.”

Re:Tour De France 2007 Preview

Anyone know if Pantani’s book is worth reading?

Re:Tour De France 2007 Preview

Larryduff has read it - he’ll respond I’m sure. He’d supposed to hand it over to me but hasn’t bothered.

Re:Tour De France 2007 Preview

Very bad news for the sport:

Deutsche Telekom pull out of cycling

Tuesday, 27 November 2007 16:32

Deutsche Telekom is ending its sponsorship of professional cycling immediately to distance its brand from the doping scandals that have blighted the sport, it said in a statement today.

‘We arrived at this decision to separate our brand from further exposure from doping in sport and cycling specifically,’ said Hamid Akhavan, Chief Executive of Deutsche Telekom’s T-Mobile unit.

Deutsche Telekom ended sponsorship of both the men’s and women’s teams. It had been sponsoring cycling since 1991.

The company said it had been negotiating with Neuer Strassen Sport, the operator of the T-Mobile Team, over terminating a contract that was set to run until the end of 2010. Both parties had agreed to keep the details confidential, it said.

‘We have worked very hard with the current team management to promote a clean cycling sport but we reached the decision to continue our efforts to rid all sports of doping by applying our resources in other directions,’ Akhavan said.

‘Deutsche Telekom AG wants to make it clear that this action is not based on any disagreement with or misconduct by team management,’ he added.

T-Mobile has asked prosecutors for copies of reports on ex-team member Patrik Sinkewitz, who was fired in July after testing positive for testosterone, after he gave details of his history of doping use to a magazine.

Sinkewitz has been giving evidence to the German Cycling Federation and hopes to return to cycling.

Team T-Mobile had said in August that Deutsche Telekom would continue its involvement in cycling to support it in the fight to create a clean sport, and would honour the contract with the T-Mobile team until it ended in 2010.

Re:Tour De France 2007 Preview

therock67 wrote:

Very bad news for the sport:

[quote]Deutsche Telekom pull out of cycling

Tuesday, 27 November 2007 16:32

Deutsche Telekom is ending its sponsorship of professional cycling immediately to distance its brand from the doping scandals that have blighted the sport, it said in a statement today.

‘We arrived at this decision to separate our brand from further exposure from doping in sport and cycling specifically,’ said Hamid Akhavan, Chief Executive of Deutsche Telekom’s T-Mobile unit.

Deutsche Telekom ended sponsorship of both the men’s and women’s teams. It had been sponsoring cycling since 1991.

The company said it had been negotiating with Neuer Strassen Sport, the operator of the T-Mobile Team, over terminating a contract that was set to run until the end of 2010. Both parties had agreed to keep the details confidential, it said.

‘We have worked very hard with the current team management to promote a clean cycling sport but we reached the decision to continue our efforts to rid all sports of doping by applying our resources in other directions,’ Akhavan said.

‘Deutsche Telekom AG wants to make it clear that this action is not based on any disagreement with or misconduct by team management,’ he added.

T-Mobile has asked prosecutors for copies of reports on ex-team member Patrik Sinkewitz, who was fired in July after testing positive for testosterone, after he gave details of his history of doping use to a magazine.

Sinkewitz has been giving evidence to the German Cycling Federation and hopes to return to cycling.

Team T-Mobile had said in August that Deutsche Telekom would continue its involvement in cycling to support it in the fight to create a clean sport, and would honour the contract with the T-Mobile team until it ended in 2010.
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Ah fuck that is bad news indeed. Le Tour is heading for some dark bad days, i fear.

If Deutsche Telekom are gone, Rabo and other high profile sponsors may go too.

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Disastrous news. Telekom were the model for what the new era of cycling was going to be. Huge blow for the sport and its hard to see a way forward now. Rabo are hardly a model team though whyowhy so wouldn’t be upset to see the back of them.

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larryduff wrote:

Disastrous news. Telekom were the model for what the new era of cycling was going to be. Huge blow for the sport and its hard to see a way forward now. Rabo are hardly a model team though whyowhy so wouldn’t be upset to see the back of them.

Not upset for the team per se, just the fact that Rabo Bank themselves could pull out the sponsorship for the exact same reasons as DT.

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As a major sponsor Rabobank would be a huge loss. There’s a difference between Rabobank backing cycling and Rabobank the team.

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therock67 wrote:

Good news on T Mobile though. They’re the future.

4 months later and they’re gone :frowning:

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therock67 wrote:

As a major sponsor Rabobank would be a huge loss. There’s a difference between Rabobank backing cycling and Rabobank the team.

Yes but Rabobank have hardly strove to create a clean sport. Sponsor cannot wash their hands of teams conduct. Just because they are a major sponsor does not mean they are a positive force. Discovery were the biggest sponsor around but I wouldn’t call their departure a blow to cycling. Not saying Rabo were a Discovery but they equally weren’t a Rabo.

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larryduff wrote:

therock67 wrote:

[quote]As a major sponsor Rabobank would be a huge loss. There’s a difference between Rabobank backing cycling and Rabobank the team.

Yes but Rabobank have hardly strove to create a clean sport. Sponsor cannot wash their hands of teams conduct. Just because they are a major sponsor does not mean they are a positive force. Discovery were the biggest sponsor around but I wouldn’t call their departure a blow to cycling. Not saying Rabo were a Discovery but they equally weren’t a Rabo.[/quote]

Same as US Postal, Festina etc etc etc

The point is Le Tour needs big sponsors. DT had indicated they would stay on, despite all the controversies post the 2007 tour. Now that they’re gone any other possible major sponsors would be thinking twice about it.

DT were great for the sport, and great for the Tour, sure they even had Pink jersies!!

Pat McQuaid and Prudhomme have got some problem on their hands.

BTW did anyone read lately that Sligoman Mark Scanlon won’t be racing in Europe this year, he basically feels let down by the sport (especially in Europe) and is considering going Pro Racing in the States instead. I must look for the article

Problems for Le Tour already this year.

The ASO (who organise the cycling in France) have decided not to invite Astana to any events they run. The UCI are furious about this infringement on their powers and won’t recognise any race that ASO organises.

Astana were Vino’s team of course and Contador (current champion) has joined them this year. Doesn’t make them any cleaner though. McQuaid doesn’t come out of any of this very well. He’s happy to dominate the airwaves every summer talking about the efforts that they’re making to clean up cycling but he’s clearly not backing any of those efforts at the moment.

I think a split is inevitable and it may be the only way to save the sport. The French, to their immense credit, have been ruthless in recent years in exposing doping and applying severe punishments to anyone with a background in doping. They’re suspending teams instead of individuals, because they know the problems are systemic and not isolated. That the UCI prefer to appease sponsors than support these overhauls tells you that they’re a big part of the problem.

Article below from today’s Irish Times:

Paris-Nice on despite UCI threat

CYCLING NEWS: THE PARIS-NICE stage race will take place as planned next month even though the International Cycling Union (UCI) have urged teams to boycott the event, organisers said yesterday.

“Despite the hostile positions taken by the UCI president (Ireland’s Pat McQuaid), Paris-Nice will take place as planned from March 9th to 16th and will be organised according to the technical rules of the French Cycling Federation, in application of the French law,” the organisers, Amaury Sport Organisation (ASO), said in a statement.

The UCI had asked the French Cycling Federation (FFC) not to recognise the event and urged the professional teams not to take part, saying they would face sanctions if they did.

UCI’s position followed ASO’s decision not to invite the Astana team to any event they organise, among them Paris-Nice and the Tour de France, because of their implication in doping scandals.

The disagreement is the latest chapter in a long-running row between the UCI and major race organisers.

McQuaid said there was no reason for ASO not to include Astana, the team of last year’s Tour winner Alberto Contador of Spain, in their races.

McQuaid is upset by the organisers’ decision to manage the race only under French law rather than under the governing body’s jurisdiction.

“This measure will have far-reaching consequences,” he said.

On Monday, McQuaid sent a letter to all teams to explain the dispute with ASO.

Paris-Nice is the European calendar’s first major race of the season, but the rift is a genuine threat to the Tour.

“It’s about power and it has nothing to do with sport. We cannot allow this to happen,” said McQuaid. “(If the FFC) insists on maintaining this position, the race will take place entirely outside the regulatory and organisational structure of the UCI.”

The UCI say they will not give any classification to Paris-Nice nor recognise a winner or award points unless the situation is resolved.

The Swiss-based body duly called on professional teams to boycott the event or threatened them with sanctions

“The UCI trusts that the teams will refuse to take part in Paris-Nice, as, regardless of the sanctions to which they would be subject, such participation would compromise the image and stability of cycling.”

They also appealed to the FFC and French secretary of state for sport to reconsider their decision to support ASO.

Last year, ASO boss Patrice Clerc called for McQuaid to step down after a long-running feud that included doping scandals at the Tour.

Tour director Christian Prudhomme added to the dispute by declaring the race will operate under its own rules in future.

Giro d’Italia starts tomorrow.

Usually a cracking event with more hilly stages than Le Tour. I tipped Di Luca on here to win last year and he did so (with some artificial assistance it seems). Haven’t had a chance to read up much at all this year but I’ll try and watch as much of this as I can to make up for missing Le Tour.

Philip Deignan is riding in the race. He completed La Vuelta fairly impressively last year so hope he can get some sort of prominence in this race.