A log of a lunatic.
Israel - acting like Nazis, yeah, I’d say.
As evil as the Nazis, as an entity? At a push, I suppose you could argue, they’re getting there at least.
More evil than the Nazis? Wha?
Why would you categorically say that unless you just hate Jews and are trying to at least somewhat rehabilitate the image of the Nazis?
We live in an information age now. And by same token disinformation and misinformation. So much access to data, images, news , opinions in real time. That wasnt the case during the holocaust. In fact the western or civilised world probably didnt understand the gravity of the genocide until the Nurenburg trials. The fact that Israel perpetrates these acts shamelessly and with impunity with the whole world watching would give you pause for thought as what they would be capable of meting out if the gaze of the world wasnt on them.
I think it’s a fair position to say that Israel are as evil if not more evil than the Nazis. I’ve never seen anything like the depravity and utterly psychopathic and unhinged rhetoric and propaganda they spout. We’ve seen it livestreamed with our own eyes.
This is 80 years on from “never again” and they have drones sniping infants, hospitals and schools being reduced to rubble, aid packages spiked with drugs, prisoners raped etc etc. The depravity is something I never ever thought I would see in my life.
I doubt there are too many Oskar Schindler type figures in Israel either.
Israel has obviously behaved in a horrifically evil manner, not just in the last three years but for many decades. It’s a supremacist state, a genocidal state. Many other supremacist states have existed, to varying degrees, genocidal states have existed, all of them bad.
On what basis is Mr. Lambert deeming that horrible state to be MORE evil than the Nazis?
I recently saw a couple of tweets by the Trump controlled US Department of State and by the highly esteemed (by Nazi sympathisers, lettuces and few others) former UK Prime Minister Liz Truss.
Both tweets said communism is the “most evil ideology” ever seen/on the planet (whatever you’re having yourself there).
Now you can argue the toss about communism being a fundamental failure to understand human nature or a hopelessly deluded ideology which created circumstances where it was much easier for evil bastards to thrive (I think I’d agree with those), you could argue it was very bad or very, very bad or I suppose you could even argue the ideology itself was inherently evil if you really wanted to do that, though I’d say anybody with a brain would think you were nuts if you wanted to do the last bit.
But it’s quite obvious what the Trump regime and Ms. Truss are trying to do here. When they say that communism is the most evil ideology ever created/on the planet, they’re trying to downplay the evil of the Nazis in the overall pantheon of evil. They’re slyly trying to rehabilitate the Nazis. Why? Because they’re trying to appeal to Nazis (as are Israel, incidentally).
And is it therefore not also obvious that Mr. Lambert is trying to do something similar?
The problem with propaganda nutters is they say things that look sensible (who could disagree with that?) to suck you in, then they mix in the really nutty stuff, and that nutty stuff gets normalised. We can see what Mr. Lambert is trying to normalise here. It’s the same thing the Trump regime and Liz Truss are trying to normalise.
Mr. Lambert is a noose around the neck of anybody who is genuinely horrified at the evil Israel has perpetrated on the Palestinian people, because he’s a shouty nutter in it for his own vainglory and his own ego who says stuff which downplays the evil of the Nazis.
He’s approaching the level of loopiness that he’s behaving like what an Israeli plant would do.
And like so many other Irish far-left nutjobs, when confronted with Russian land grabbing, massacring and torture, he suddenly starts deflecting and claiming the root cause is Western provocation.
Is that necessarily what they’re trying to do? I think you’re giving Truss far too much credit here. I think she’s just saying lefty is bad, I don’t think she’s thought beyond that.
I think that’s what the Trump regime and Truss are trying to do alright - trying to dog whistle to Nazis by saying they weren’t as evil as communists. I mean it’s not as if the Trump regime doesn’t have long form for that or anything.
I think Lambert is trying to do something similar. He’s trying to appeal to people who just hate Jews by using Israel as a conduit. I don’t see how you can think otherwise if you’re maintaining Israel is MORE evil than the Nazis. I mean as well as hating Israel I also hate Russia who are acting like Nazis and have invaded another country on a similar pretext to the Nazis invading places, but I haven’t called them “more evil than the Nazis”? I think anybody who did that would immedately lose credibility (anybody wonder why we have so few people in the public space who publicly castigate Israel AND Russia?).
When Douglas Murray tried to make out that Hamas were more evil than the Nazis (if I remember rightly, and I think I do), Douglas Murray was also trying to downplay the evil of the Nazis and he was trying to provoke genocides by far right nutters in Europe against Muslims and by Israel against Palestinians. Douglas Murray did that because in his rotten heart, he’s a Nazi.
Lambert has totally lost the plot if he ever had anything resembling one, and it’s only a matter of time before his name becomes mud like that of Wallace and Daly.
Of course you shouldn’t “shit on your own side” apparently (am I supposed to be on the same side as the Russian interference runner Lambert?), even if they’re a deplorable, that’s bad form. Loyalty to the cult!
I do find it amazing how the “centrists” and right wingers find people like Clare Daly, George Galloway, Daniel Lambert etc so objectionable.
The same people are so indifferent to the neo-liberals and neo-cons who are quite happy to arm, aid, support and run cover for the Israelis and their genocide. The same people are unwilling to call the bombing of a girls school killing hundreds of schoolgirls as a war crime, they’re not even willing to come out and condemn it. These are the same people who project themselves as the morally superior and leaders of the free world. It’s pure propaganda and that is why the thing is to always smear the left. The uneasy truth for the “centrists” is that they are the ones who aren’t that ideologically different to the far right.
The only real defining difference is extreme nationalism vs extreme globalism - they both want tax cuts for the rich, they both want public spending reduced, they both want the free market and oligarchs to run the economy and the ordinary citizen is just a hamster on the wheel for them to exploit. . The centrists positioning themselves as “centrists” is a laughable tag really. The accurate description would be right wing globalists.
Lots of left wing people find them objectionable because they’re propaganda shills for the imperialist, fascist, genocidal Russian regime and also their proxies like Assad who slaughter people by the hundreds of thousands?
That’s just propaganda and blatantly dishonest.
Both Daly and Lambert have repeatedly condemned Putin and Russia’s invasion and continue to smeared by centrists and right wingers as being pro-Russia.
That post is just propaganda and blatantly dishonest.
Again, I don’t think truss is that smart, I don’t think she had that ulterior motive. She has the badness for it but not the wit. The trump administration is full of nazis and I’d give them the credit for that thought alright. I think you’re overlooking that people lose the run of themselves, they say things like this without putting real thought into it, or they see horrors and can’t think of anything worse or of a different way to describe it and so come out with something like this. As Lambert has. Basically you’re overly focusing on one thing and coming up with an extreme conclusion.
Also, not really enough of a public figure to have his own thread.
Truss is in lockstep with the Nazi sympathisers in the Trump regime.
Lambert also isn’t stupid. He knows what he’s doing.
Murray knew full well what he was doing.
It’s facts. You’re a liar and a propagandist. Proof below.
“I unequivocally supported the sections of the resolution which condemn Russia’s war of aggression… The sole responsibility for this is borne by President Vladimir Putin.” (The full text of her written explanation can be found in reference.) [1]
Now it’s interesting the sickening hypocrisy of you when it comes to Western leaders consistently running cover for Israel and justifying US and Israeli war crimes that resulted in the deaths of thousands of innocent civilians. You have no truck with ghouls like Macron, Schulz, Von Der Leyen, Starmer and Micheal Martin. You are not horrified by the Irish leader engaging in propaganda in IDF uniform or sickening and cravenly cosying up to Jeffrey Esptein’s buddy. You were not horrified by Micheal Martin meeting up with Genocide Joe during the week with a massive grin across his face.
That’s the leader of this country and his association and shameless actions and craven nature to war criminals. Oddly enough the actions of a football exec/music manager, a former MEP and a former British politician matter more to you than that. You can criticise Galloway for his defence of Putin - fair enough - but the hypocrisy absolutely destroys your credibility.
Rachel Moiselle says all sorts of stuff to try and imply she’s not a propagandist for Israel.
Anybody who takes seriously the idea that Wallace isn’t a propagandist for Putin or that Rachel Moiselle isn’t a propagandist for Israel is a simpleton.
Yes she is but she’s a venal bad minded idiot.
I think you’ve gone overboard on lambert because of a throwaway comment. I also don’t think he’s a big enough public figure to have his own thread to be discussed. He’s also not a politician whose words should get parsed to death for meaning or who should be held to those standards.
Who’s Murray?
Your double standards are shining through here.
You have no truck with Martin cosying up to the IDF and Trump, refusing to condemn the bombing of a girls school killing hundreds - I repeat - refusing to condemn the bombing of a girls school killing hundreds. You’ve no truck with that.
Yet you pretend to be outraged about others because they call out the hypocrisy and utter shameless amoral action of Western politicla world. Your smears will never wash when they are contradicted by the facts and your own double standards.
The more you read into it the more you’d wonder about the 6m figure…. If you’re gonna lie, lie big.
