Krav Maga have a âassault rifleâ technique which is supposed to train you to disarm somebody with a machine gun. It was for me, and I would guess most people, the last Krav Maga class you take.
[QUOTE=âmickee321, post: 1096693, member: 367â]the moderating on here is top notch in fairness.
its just as well i dont take offence to lads calling my wife a sand monkey and a smelly arab, lads like @Mac have great banter making nasty jokes about kids with special needs as well, i presume infractions are handed out for this type of shit⌠its an interesting dynamic tho, i almost caused a forum shutdown when i had a bit of banter about lads been sent to prison but yet youll have photos of a posters Mrs or his home address sent around by PM and nothing happensâŚ[/QUOTE]
:rolleyes:
[QUOTE=âmickee321, post: 1096693, member: 367â]the moderating on here is top notch in fairness.
its just as well i dont take offence to lads calling my wife a sand monkey and a smelly arab, lads like @Mac have great banter making nasty jokes about kids with special needs as well, i presume infractions are handed out for this type of shit⌠its an interesting dynamic tho, i almost caused a forum shutdown when i had a bit of banter about lads been sent to prison but yet youll have photos of a posters Mrs or his home address sent around by PM and nothing happensâŚ[/QUOTE]
Simple rule, dont throw up pics of lads horsing into a burger in BK and everything will be cushty
You sicken me.
:rolleyes:
Superb from Downes
Ian OâRiordan nails it - the celebration or equivocation of participation sports with elite sports
calls out Bressie and Ray DâArcy too
calls out rugby "It helped that it was a relatively quiet weekend for elite Irish sport, coinciding with some temporary relief from the infections strain of hype that surrounds the [Six Nations](âhttp://www.irishtimes.com/search/search-7.1213540?q=Six Nations&article=trueâ)."
The strange thing about all this is that in a sport that increasingly celebrates the perfectly ordinary, there is still some due respect left for an athlete like Mark English. In fact athletics must be the only sport in the world where those at the very basic entry level, who run for the mere pleasure of it, without actually achieving anything, are now deemed heroic in some sense or another, especially if theyâve lost a few stone in weight or quit smoking 40 cigarettes a day.
If anything those at the bottom end of the sport are now getting more recognition than those at the top - like some local Ardfert footballers kicking about on Banna Strand getting more media spotlight than [Kieran Donaghy](âhttp://www.irishtimes.com/search/search-7.1213540?tag_person=Kieran Donaghy&article=trueâ). This is not necessarily a bad thing, as theyâre more likely to represent the very essence of sport, although athletics in this country is becoming increasingly prone to the purely standard heroics of mere participation.
But donât just take my word for it. The cover story of this weekâs RTĂ Guide - still the best-selling magazine in the country - features three ârunning junkiesâ, including [David Gillick](âhttp://www.irishtimes.com/search/search-7.1213540?tag_person=David Gillick&article=trueâ), who certainly reached the top of his event, his 44.77 seconds for 400m still an Irish record of considerable worth, and who understandably misses the routine of the elite athlete.
Also featured is Ray DâArcy, another RTĂ radio man, who âhas got the nation runningâ, and enjoys running about three times a week, and [Nuala Carey[/URL], RTĂâs weather and Lotto presenter, who runs three or four times a week. Both of them come across as wonderfully addicted to their running, for utterly justifiable reasons, although theyâre hardly running junkies, at least not in the way Arthur Lydiard or [URL=âhttp://www.irishtimes.com/search/search-7.1213540?tag_person=Percy Cerutty&article=trueâ]Percy Cerutty](âhttp://www.irishtimes.com/search/search-7.1213540?tag_person=Nuala Carey&article=trueâ) meant running to be.
The cover story of this monthâs Irish Runner - still the best-selling running magazine in the country - features something similar, an in-depth interview with singer-songwriter [Niall Breslin](âhttp://www.irishtimes.com/search/search-7.1213540?tag_person=Niall Breslin&article=trueâ), better known as Bressie, who for several years now has been using running as a vital tool in his struggles against anxiety and depression. Bressie clearly has a passion for running - also promoting his 1,000 Hours project, as a way of drawing others in too - and again itâs a wonderful and utterly justifiable cause. The only worry here is that not even the specialist running magazines can find much room anymore for the thoughtful conversations about what it takes to succeed as an elite distance runner.
OâRiordanâs just bitter because he was a half-decent athlete who got a US scholarship and he thinks he should be feted for it and all these people whoâve taken up running have no business getting any praise.
He usually tries to shoe-horn some anecdote from his racing days into every single tedious article he writes in the IT.
Is o riordan the gimp from Cork with the bad mullet
Is Ian O Riordain the failed athlete generally disliked by other athletes?
O Lionaird, generally alright, for a Corkman
[QUOTE=âThrawneen, post: 1107521, member: 129â]OâRiordanâs just bitter because he was a half-decent athlete who got a US scholarship and he thinks he should be feted for it and all these people whoâve taken up running have no business getting any praise.
He usually tries to shoe-horn some anecdote from his racing days into every single tedious article he writes in the IT.[/QUOTE]
Ah good man Thrawneen, beat me to it. IOR is a gimp.
[QUOTE=âThrawneen, post: 1107521, member: 129â]OâRiordanâs just bitter because he was a half-decent athlete who got a US scholarship and he thinks he should be feted for it and all these people whoâve taken up running have no business getting any praise.
He usually tries to shoe-horn some anecdote from his racing days into every single tedious article he writes in the IT.[/QUOTE]
I donât agree. More and more we respect âcelebrityâ over any real achievement or qualification to give advice or insight.
Participation in sport is great and to be encouraged but increasingly people are trying to project this image of an athlete/sportsman because they have trundled around a marathon in 4 and half hours or have done a triathlon. It is more of the cultivation of an image online that is engaged in where the only point of running a marathon is to tell somebody you ran a marathon
What are you not agreeing with?
[QUOTE=âTheUlteriorMotive, post: 1107526, member: 2272â]I donât agree. More and more we respect âcelebrityâ over any real achievement or qualification to give advice or insight.
Participation in sport is great and to be encouraged but increasingly people are trying to project this image of an athlete/sportsman because they have trundled around a marathon in 4 and half hours or have done a triathlon. It is more of the cultivation of an image online that is engaged in where the only point of running a marathon is to tell somebody you ran a marathon[/QUOTE]
But who gives a fuck? If it gets them out and off the couch then whatâs the harm?
If putting Bressie on the cover of Irish Runner sells them more copies then great. He knows his stuff, he was a professional rugger player, and any lad who goes to La Santa a couple of times a year takes his sport seriously.
And if IOR is annoyed because someone thinks theyâre Moses Kiptanui because they finished a marathon, he should just do what I do and ask them their time.
And if the cultivation of online images in general annoys you, well, I suggest you disconnect from the internet altogether.
[QUOTE=âThrawneen, post: 1107530, member: 129â]But who gives a fuck? If it gets them out and off the couch then whatâs the harm?
If putting Bressie on the cover of Irish Runner sells them more copies then great. He knows his stuff, he was a professional rugger player, and any lad who goes to La Santa a couple of times a year takes his sport seriously.
And if IOR is annoyed because someone thinks theyâre Moses Kiptanui because they finished a marathon, he should just do what I do and ask them their time.
And if the cultivation of online images in general annoys you, well, I suggest you disconnect from the internet altogether.[/QUOTE]
itâs more of style over substance - prerogative of Irish Runner but it is part of the increasing trend of celebrity triumphing over knowledge/experience/achievement
Bressie is not an elite athlete - he trains for his own amusement and the only reason you know he goes to La Santa is because he insists on telling you in every interview he does even though himself and his missus âvalue their privacyâ
Why should I disconnect from the internet if something annoys me on the internet. That is like saying if something annoys you in life you should disconnect from life.
We should not celebrate ordinary as extraordinary. People should be embarrassed bringing up their âtrainingâ regimes as a means of gaining some kind of social proof. That is why they do it - so puncturing that bubble is always worthwhile as it is when anybody boasts about something, particularly when that something is demonstrably not something to boast about. In fact people who have actually achieved something worth boasting about are usually the last people to bring it up whereas the lads who never achieved anything seem to be the ones telling you about their âtraining holidaysâ and their 5km splits.
[QUOTE=âTheUlteriorMotive, post: 1107527, member: 2272â]IOR is calling out this kind of idiot
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Best comedy moment in the history of TV. 
I see both sides of this argument. While anything that encourages people to be more active and healthy is positive, it isnât half annoying when some tiresome cunt wonât shut up about how far he jogged last night.
[QUOTE=âBandage, post: 1107537, member: 9â]Best comedy moment in the history of TV. 
I see both sides of this argument. While anything that encourages people to be more active and healthy is positive, it isnât half annoying when some tiresome cunt wonât shut up about how far he jogged last night.[/QUOTE]
Cycling 10k though is a different matter.
@TheUlteriorMotive
Youâve made 4 points there.
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Iâm sure Irish Runner has plenty of training tips from elite coaches/athletes on the inside pages of the magazine. I donât know, I havenât got a copy. Also, I donât think people take their training advice from celebrities over experts if itâs to do with anything remotely serious. Like, I could train someone to run 5k, or point them in the direction of a healthy diet. If theyâre after more serious achievement then I think they know themselves that Bressie or Jade Goody or whoever isnât going to be the one theyâre following. Also, please cite some examples here. I canât think of many.
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Bressie was a professional rugby player for a number of years. I never said he was an elite athlete. And what difference does his expertise or lack thereof make if he mentions he goes to La Santa in media interviews? I fail to see your point here. Jenson Button mentions it a lot too. I pick up on it having been to see the grounds on a trip to Lanzarote and having once contemplated going there.
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You donât have to disconnect from the internet but people are creating online images for themselves in their billions. Get over it. Stop looking. I donât know. It seems an incredibly obvious and pointless thing to give out about.
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I donât hang around with anyone who bring up their shitty training regimes. Do you? Why do you? Two of my best mates have played in a the Dublin SHC Final and the Irish Basketball Cup Final in recent years and mentioned it to no one. Another lad ran a marathon in around 2:50 and never said anything about it unless you ask.
Some of my lesser athletic friends might tell us about training to do a 5k/10k and I respect them for getting up off their arses but theyâre not boasting about it.
The only Facebook friend I have who continually posts training regimes and results is a super-fit Slovak girl I know whoâs a personal trainer at a Westwood and thatâs a-ok with me.
Get some new friends.
IOR is just pissed off as nobody cares about athletics anymore and they need celebrity input to try and raise the profile of the pastime