Deflection thread

Offffftttt remarkable clamping.

Ronaldo the guy who lit up France 98.

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You might be confusing him with Zidane.

None of the goals that Ronaldo scored in that World Cup were even the winning goal in that match.

In 2014 Messi scored the winning goal v Bosnia, Iran (in the 91st minute), he also assisted Di Maria for his extra-time goal in the quarter.

Iā€™m not. Zidane missed most of the tournament through suspension. He returned to the France side for their semi final clash with Croatia where Thuram dragged France through.

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Bosnia and Iran and a solitary assist?

Are we meant to be talking about a great here?

Mbappe did more in 45 minutes on Saturday than Messi has managed in a career.

It may have gone over your head but I was talking about Ronaldo in 1998 vs Messi in 2014, as you claimed gthat Ronaldo ā€˜lit up the tournamentā€™ in 1998.

I was simply pointing out that he didnā€™t score a single goal that led to Brazil winning a game. Messi in 2014 directly influenced the outcome of three games.

The main thing people associate with Ronaldo in 1998 is how he choked in the final.

As I said in Saturday, its a team game. Thereā€™s only so much Messi can do when thereā€™s an embarrassment of a defence behind him. Ferenc Puskas, Alfredo di Stefano, Eusebio, George Best, Johan Cruyff, Zico, Glenn Hoddle, Paolo Maldini, Cristiano Ronaldo and Lionel Messi donā€™t have a World Cup winners medal.

Stephane Guivarcā€™h, Kleberson, Francesco Totti and Andre Schurrle do.

You donā€™t seem to be know what youā€™re talking about after referencing a chap who missed most of France 98 through suspension.

Everyone remembers Ronaldoā€™s display in the semi final win over the Dutch in 98. We all know what happened to him on the night prior to the final. We all know how he came back wonky knees and all 4 years later to set things right.

We all know Messi has now flopped in 4 World Cups.

Thatā€™s right Totti has one and Messi doesnā€™t.

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How many World Cup goals did the second highest ever Serie A goalscorer Francesco Totti score?

Totti was an assister. He has 1 goal and 5 assists in 8 World Cup games.

And a winners medal.

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you seem to be discounting assists from Messi.

Thereā€™s not many to discount. A mishit shot and one after the game was over seems to be the height of it.

That was the dodgy penalty incorrectly awarded against Australia in 2006? So is it 0 goals from open play for the second highest, 250 time Serie A goalscorer Francesco Totti. Youā€™re now focusing on assists provided by Totti. Bizarre that you were criticising Messi for not scoring a goal on Saturday when he provided the assists for two and it was a joke of a defence that conceded four that cost Argentina the game.

You really love spouting the Royal ā€˜weā€™.

I referenced Zidane as he was clutch in two knock out games in 1998, scoring the winning goal in both the quarter-final and final. I know Ronaldo was class as I know Messi was class in 2014.

It wasnā€™t. It was a penalty, if you donā€™t know the laws of the game you should really cease embarrassing yourself.

Zidane didnā€™t play in the quarter final so must have imagined it in a state of delusion. Zidane was sent off in the 2nd group game in France 98, he served a 2 match ban where he returned for the quarter final against Italy. Lillian Thuram popped up from right back to hit a brace as France came from behind to defeat Croatia.

Now try and stick to reality.

Oh dear

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AL3bcV91BDM

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It was a 0-0 draw. How was he clutch?

Where did hit the winner in the 0-0 draw against Italy at France 98?

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