Derby Days - Sunday July 26th

Kicking off the build up with the Irish Times’ Derby Days column from March of this year.

Wednesday, March 18, 2009

Rivals set for new chapter in old capital affair

In recent years there have been several regrettable scenes linked to the city rivalry between Bohemian and Shamrock Rovers.

When Drumcondra FC left the scene in 1972, the path was cleared for Bohemians versus Shamrock Rovers to take centre stage

WITH SO many football clubs based in Dublin though this season just three are in the Premier Division it is, perhaps, peculiar that one FAI League of Ireland fixture should stand out from all the other past and present capital combinations.
For decades, every meeting of Bohemians and Shamrock Rovers has raised the temperature on the pitch and in the stands to unique levels in Irish domestic football. And while many have pointed to the classic encounters in the 1970s for the origins of the rivalry, the roots of the relationship can be found even earlier.

On April 23rd, 1945, a record crowd watched the northside versus southside battle in the FAI Cup final. The following day The Irish Times reported: Before a crowd of 37,348 (gate receipts, 2,240), Shamrock Rovers won the FAI Cup for the 10th time at Dalymount Park yesterday, with success coming through a single goal, scored ten minutes after the interval . . . 10 minutes after the restart Glennon brought the ball far up the field and lost possession. Before he could get back to aid the defence the ball had travelled through Farrell and Rogers to Delaney, who put it square across and Gregg, lying unmarked, scored with a shot which hit the inside of the upright, giving Collins no chance.

In fact, the duelling between the clubs began when Shamrock Rovers defeated Bohemian FC 3-0 in the Free State final, in April, 1929 this paper commenting Rovers backs preserved a very even method, which upset the amateurs.

Bohemian FC would maintain their amateur status for another 40 years and the switch would signal a big improvement for the clubs fortunes, with Bohs claiming two league titles, two FAI Cups and two league cups in the 1970s.

The previous decade was the heyday of Drumcondra FC, who won the domestic league in 1961 and again in 1965, when holding reigning champions Shamrock Rovers to second place, with Bohemian FC finishing third (the following season Rovers and Bohs would finish second and third again respectively though this time with Waterford FC taking the honours). Rovers would get very used to finishing second during the following seasons, though they were masters in the FAI Cup winning the cup seven times in the 1960s.

Any talk of a big Dublin derby at the time inevitably included Drumcondra FC. However, when the northside club left the scene at the start of the 1970s, the path was cleared for Bohemians versus Shamrock Rovers to take centre stage.

In the quarter-century between Drumcondra FCs last top-flight title, in 1965, and the dawn of the 1990s, the only Dublin clubs to claim the League of Ireland crown were Bohemian FC (in 1975 and 1978) and Shamrock Rovers (four in a row from 1984). In that time, the top-flight trophy travelled the country, going to Waterford (six times), Dundalk (five times), Athlone Town (twice), as well as Cork Hibernians, Cork Celtic, Sligo Rovers, Limerick FC and Derry City. It was left to Bohs and Rovers to fly the flag for Dublin though never in unison.

When Rovers won the four in a row in the 1980s, Bohs finished second twice, fourth and then third, with every meeting between the two being life or death. And when Bohemians won the league in 1977-78, Rovers finished just four points behind their fierce rivals.

Johnny Giles was then player-manager of Rovers, and would lead the club to the 1978 FAI Cup. Rovers had a high-profile, polished feel, with Giles lining up alongside Eamon Dunphy in midfield, Eoin Hand in charge at the back and Ray Treacy commanding forward operations.

In contrast, Bohs didnt have the names, but in the citys derby ties that didnt seem to matter much and with Turlough OConnor and Eddie Byrne in attack the home supporters knew goals were possible.

And arrive they did, two in the first half OConnor scoring twice the second a superb free-kick to the top corner of the net. Shortly after the break, the shed erupted when Byrne claimed Bohs third.

During the era the tensions between the supporters boiled over on more than one occasion, and in recent years there have been several regrettable scenes linked to the rivalry between the sides.

In March, 2000, the Dublin derby had to be halted for more than 20 minutes when fighting broke out between supporters at Dalymount Park. And in September 2003, both sets of supporters clashed again after a derby meeting at Richmond Park, which resulted in Shamrock Rovers who never like to rest their hat anywhere for too long anyway being told they were no longer welcome to play their home games in Inchicore.

And during the 2-2 derby meeting in April, 2004, a pigs head was thrown on to the pitch at Dalymount apparently in response to Bohemians signing of former Shamrock Rovers players Tony Grant and James Keddy.

While an unsavoury element can be difficult to shake off, it surely didnt help that Rovers have spent so much time homeless. It also certainly damaged the clubs fortunes on the field.

This season, however, there is a new confidence that accompanies a new home. And when Rovers travel to Dalymount on Friday they will arrive as confident visitors, but with the local knowledge of a home side. And they will need that edge against the reigning league and cup champions.

Fridays fixture has the feel of a new era in domestic soccer. But with all the tradition of an old affair.

This article appears in the print edition of the Irish Times

Bullit points please

I assumed that after the inevitable massacre at the hands of Real Madrid, SRFC would return to relative obscurity and we would be spared any more threads on the subject…

I reckon this will be the game where the league is all but wrapped up. Bohs are a better side and at home. The Champions League game on Wednesday night could potentially upset Bohs but there’s four days between the two games so that should give them enough time to recover physically. If they win on Wednesday they might become complacent but I think Nutsy should be able to stop that, especially after what happened in Tallaght. If they lose on Wednesday, they’ll be out to make up for it. I can’t really see anything other than a Bohs win which would put us eight points clear at the top. Should be a good game as from clips I’ve seen Rovers seem to be playing decent enough.

shels is a bigger derby for Rovers than fc biggles

I presume that will be your last post on the subject NCC. Your own manager and players would probably beg to differ, as would the majority of the match-going Hoops support base :mad:

you give fc biggles too much credit

drums were our biggest rivals - then shels pats & its even between you UCD & sporting fingal with SF just edging it

Thought this was about the upcoming Dingle Derby.