Perhaps there were too many average players like Colm Cooper playing?
That’s bullshit. This Spillane spouted notion about open football on Sunday being a victory - as if excellent defensive play and tactical nous is somehow attacking what is good about the game. Well I find such matches fascinating.
I don’t know if that is a pop at me but if it is, I won’t justify it with any further response.
Nah it isn’t pal. 
It’s hard to judge the merits of a game when watching on TV with an utter simpleton like Kevin McStay in your ear.
I wouldn’t have Mayo-Dublin 2006 close to it quality wise. I already mentioned the two Tyrone-Kerry finals I was at. I was at that Tyrone-Armagh semi-final in 2005 too and that wasn’t anywhere near to Sunday.
I’m certain it’s the greatest game I’ve ever been at for the reasons outlined by @Sidney above. Quality, pace, drama, atmosphere.
Is a decision by a manager to go for an open, all-out pace and attack game which perfectly suits his team’s players, an example of tactical nous?
Was playing Cooper at 11 an example of tactical nous?
Maynooth vs UCD 1998
My audacious back heel goal
[quote=“The Wild Colonial Bhoy, post: 825908, member: 80”]Maynooth vs UCD 1998
My audacious back heel goal[/quote]
maynooth were canon fodder back then mate…
yes,thats why that game was all the more remarkable
are you mates with that sober paddy fella from your St. Sylvesters gaa and country club days?..
sober paddy?
Ebeenezer might know him
[quote=“The Wild Colonial Bhoy, post: 825908, member: 80”]Maynooth vs UCD 1998
My audacious back heel goal[/quote]
Were you training to be a priest?
no this is where he fell in love with a lad training to be a priest…your man broke his heart and left him for a member of the starting 15 on sigerson team…TWCB has waged war on the catholic church and gga ever since…
[quote=“scumpot, post: 825802, member: 182”]You are balanced kev…you’ve a chip on both shoulders…
you would hear none of it when I flagged O Sullivan’s performance against kildare even after I tried to explain to you BEING AT THE MATCH I could see the work he was getting through…but you knew it all…
You are constantly on here belittling Connolly and questioning his character as a footballer to be counted when needed…All you have to do is watch the last 10 minutes of 2011 All Ireland final and him dropping out to half forward and setting up the last 3 points Dublin scored to know what he is like when the game is in the balance…Again on sunday , while not being outstanding for 70 minutes, he stood up in second half and was counted…i would say he’s not a very likeable character off the field but you seem to let that judge him totally a s a footballer on it which is very narrow minded on your part…
this “You are very reactionary to a player having one good or bad game” is complete bollox because I actually questioned your praise of Buckley before the game and now again after…[/quote]
Fella being at the matches a fuck all to alot of people. They still can’t see what’s needed to be done. I never questioned O Sullivan’s work rate. I was extremely specific in my assert. His positioning was his main issue and he had to work harder to get to the contest and pitch of the game cos of poor positioning. I never questioned his football ability, but he looked a fish out of water at midfield for a few games.
Neither have I ever judged Cinnolly on what he is like off the field. I have very little insight to what he is like. It was always based on his on field personality, his demeanor, his selfishness etc. you have just made up that i’m judging him on his personality, i judge him solely on what he does on the pitch. he has always shown flashes and periods of dominant skillful play, but has mixed it with awful games, awful decision making within games he’s even doing well in and a few games where he has hid.
You actually don’t read the game very well and you don’t have an eye for the little things. I think you feel you are right about everything because Dublin are winning. It’s like someone who follows Barcelona or Bayern Munich and argue they Know it all about the game because they can predict their team winning. But that in fact has nothing to do with their reading of the game an more to do with the fact that they just happen to support a good team and in your case you just happen to be from Dublin.
Your flip flopping on Ger Brennan is a perfect example.
yes
[quote=“caoimhaoin, post: 825930, member: 273”]
Your flip flopping on Ger Brennan is a perfect example.[/quote]
what are you on about u absolute bullshitter??..
Your answer was tosay he´s bluffing …
good call kev…:rolleyes:
[quote=“Sidney, post: 825892, member: 183”]Is a decision by a manager to go for an open, all-out pace and attack game which perfectly suits his team’s players, an example of tactical nous?
Was playing Cooper at 11 an example of tactical nous?[/quote]
I’m not getting at Sunday’s game. I’m getting at this Spillane type notion, which you seem to be subscribing to with your previous post on ‘importance being placed on negativity’, that modern day football is like a cancer on the game with its over emphasis on negative tactics. I don’t subscribe to that at all as I have already outlined. I greatly admire the likes of McGuinness and to a lesser extent McGeeney who best try to utilise their limited resources to over achieve in many instances. Not all counties have the luxury of having players to play an open expansive game. That’s not a criticism of Gavin - that’s the way it is.
but its still brave of Gavin to do it…they are so open because of it…i think You are spot on about Mcguinness etc. Spillane is full of crap and just wants to keep going back to his era where Jimmy keavney would have 10 pints in Kavanaghs on a saturday and be man of the match in an all ireland on the sunday…If i wasn´t from dublin I´d be sick to my back teeth of hearing about the Dublin kerry rivalry of the 70´s…you´d swear nobody else had anything going since…
I think Spillane and alot of other idiots mix up dirty cynical play with good tactical systems and good defending. The rules, the refereeing and a whole heap of other things get thrown in the mix. Spillane et al have blinkers on so I really would not listen to a word they say.
Mayo are defending and they are attacking as a form of defense and I think in general they are better prepared and planned out than Dublin. Dublin have a kick out strategy on both ends of the pitch and Gavin is good at making changes, but other than that they are just relying on speed and throwing enough shit at the wall hoping it will stick. I still maintain its somewhat naive in terms of winning the All Ireland. A very average Kerry team were giving a platform to be in the game cos of Dublins nativity and lack of defensive structure.
Mayo have actual better defenders, they are better tacklers and they defend the goal better. Mayo match up well at midfield and while individually Dublin have better forwards they are still capable of making poor decisions under pressure. Dublin, as alluded to here, played their best football early in the year. Sunday was a classic, but it was a shoot out, and that was always going to suit Dublin with their athleticism and their bench. Mayo match they physically, are not far off them bench wise and are superior defensively.
That’s why I give them the edge.
[quote=“The Wild Colonial Bhoy, post: 825908, member: 80”]Maynooth vs UCD 1998
My audacious back heel goal[/quote]
You clearly standing in the box though mate, it should never have been allowed.