What does that have to do with it?
Tyrone had to rely on late points ftom McMenamin and Jordan to defeat Wexford in 2008. All potential All Ireland winners need defenders to contribute when the chips are down.
[quote=“croppy_boy, post: 826001, member: 306”]What does that have to do with it?
Tyrone had to rely on late points ftom McMenamin and Jordan to defeat Wexford in 2008. All potential All Ireland winners need defenders to contribute when the chips are down.[/quote]
They didn’t have to step up because their forwards were misfiring. Tyrone have never had problems with their forwards scoring from open play.
And going back to my original point, a team whose strikers misfire are in big bother. Mayo absolutely cleaned Tyrone out in the middle of the pitch for the majority of the game and could only muster a 6 point winning margin which if you take the 1-4 they were gifted by refereeing errors then you would be even more worried.
Dublin have been tested far more than Mayo and have played better opponents.
[quote=“Rudi, post: 825997, member: 1052”]I asked for instances - not for names, you retard. We all knew you are thick as pig shit, now you’re just showing us that your comprehension skills are that of a mentally disabled goat.
When was the last time an inter county team who had aspirations of winning an All Ireland failed to have any of their forward line register a score from play in the first half of an All Ireland semi-final?[/quote]
Dublin against Hunegal in 2011.
[quote=“Rudi, post: 826003, member: 1052”]They didn’t have to step up because their forwards were misfiring. Tyrone have never had problems with their forwards scoring from open play.
And going back to my original point, a team whose strikers misfire are in big bother. Mayo absolutely cleaned Tyrone out in the middle of the pitch for the majority of the game and could only muster a 6 point winning margin which if you take the 1-4 they were gifted by refereeing errors then you would be even more worried.[/quote]
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[SIZE=4]you could be here all day spouting hypothetical situations.
" a team whos strikers misfire are in big bother"
the current soccer World and European champions rely on whom to lead their offence…oh, misfiring striker Fernando Torres…
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The physicality of tyrones backs was too much for mayos forwards, they dispossessed them regularly so i think they’re in trouble as dublin are just as aggressive in the tackle. Dublin don’t attack from all angles but their style makes it seem they do. All their backs bar mccaffrey and o sullivan to a lesser extent who was moved back the last day stay in defence generally. You dont have backs flying up the field like mayo do. Macauley and the half forwards just run hard at backs and force them to foul or win frees themselves after contact. Mayo are going to come up against a fairly full and aggressive defence, and i dont see them having the tact to pick their way through with foot passes, their best option would be to run at them like dublin do, after that it comes down to a referees interpretation of who’s backs are fouling in their defending.
James MCcarthy has been known to foray forward. That’s two of the Half back line.
The 2 outstanding aspects of Mayo’s play all year has been, their accurate foot passing and their discipline in the tackle. In the media a lot has been made,too much in my opinion, in the amount of time dedicated in training to perfect the tackle. This should counteract Dublin’s direct running style.
Additionally even when Mayo dont get a chance to tackle a forward they are quite adept at pressurising forwards and making them miss. A facet of the dublin Kerry Game which i found surprising was once the Dublin forward received the ball in a scoring position they were able to lose their man with ease, this will not be the case with a more unified and cohesive mayo defence.
Mayo’s best option is to pressurise Dublin’s Full back line which creaked all day Sunday and only looked comfortable when long ball was being lofted into Donaghy.
Quick intelligent payers will be a tough task for them.
Ah look, no game can really be called the ‘greatest’ ever. Different eras, different styles and differing stakes at play, which leads to differing emotions and looking back with nostalgia… But as a nipper I remember watching the trilogy between Dublin and Meath and that 3rd replay was epic, and as good entertainment as you’ll get. Likewise, I’d have Tyrone v Armagh semi final of 2005 in there for the intensity, rivalry and sheer doggedness… All 3 very different games but as farmer says the greatness of a game can’t be judged on one merit, or aspect, alone.
@Horsebox is also correct, I haven’t a clue. I only watch the auld football to pass a few hours, we all know hurling is where it is at.
[quote=“count of monte cristo, post: 826032, member: 348”]
Mayo’s best option is to pressurise Dublin’s Full back line which creaked all day Sunday and only looked comfortable when long ball was being lofted into Donaghy.
Quick intelligent payers will be a tough task for them.[/quote]
Dublin’s half forward line and half back line were destroyed in first half against Kerry…gooch and Galvin and Tom O se could pick their passes…this leaves the full back line as sitting ducks… when the balls started coming in 50/50 in second half Dublin full back line was much better…Dublin’s half forward line are going to have to have a much better game for the full 70 minutes if Dublin are going to prevail against Mayo…everyone said Dublin midfield and the high ball into full back line was meant to be the weak spot all season…both those ideas have been blown out of the water since the knockout stages started… whoever comes out on top between mayo’s half backs and Dublin’s half forwards will win the match…
By the same token once Donaghy came in Kerry were goosed because 1 I can’t remember the last game Donaghy had a significant impact on and 2 accommodating Donaghy meant a change of tack from what had reaped so many rewards for them in the first half. In fairness Dublin had started to come to grips with Kerry a bit and Kerry hadn’t many other options that to stick in Donaghy and hope he might latch onto a ball, it was more hit and hope than expectation of an impact though I thought.
[quote=“Mark Renton, post: 826063, member: 1796”]Ah look, no game can really be called the ‘greatest’ ever. Different eras, different styles and differing stakes at play, which leads to differing emotions and looking back with nostalgia… But as a nipper I remember watching the trilogy between Dublin and Meath and that 3rd replay was epic, and as good entertainment as you’ll get. Likewise, I’d have Tyrone v Armagh semi final of 2005 in there for the intensity, rivalry and sheer doggedness… All 3 very different games but as farmer says the greatness of a game can’t be judged on one merit, or aspect, alone.
@Horsebox is also correct, I haven’t a clue. I only watch the auld football to pass a few hours, we all know hurling is where it is at.[/quote]
Are you talking about the 4 game trilogy in 1991?
The entertainment and drama was exceptional but the standard of the games from a purist’s perspective was shit enough I’d say. That said, Croke Park was a lot smaller in those days so it’d wouldn’t have lent itself to open games between evenly matched teams.
Your dislike of Spillane clouds this issue, I disagree with you allowing that to be the case
Different games you twat.
Didn’t you say pretty average all season? The stats @TreatyStones posted up from the Cavan game contradict you.
do you know what average means?
Yes, but you’re misreading the posts. Kevin described Cooper as being average all season up til the Dublin game. To me those stats don’t indicate a performance that can be described as “average”. Kev knows more about football than me but I think he was wrong on Cooper this year.
I never said that.
No it doesn’t. If you read the post it is pretty coherent in terms of what my point is.
I see your point, I disagree with its basis in that you have a long held issue with Spillane and it colours any point you make in relation to the man.
You retard.