Dublin v Mayo - All-Ireland Senior Football Final 2013

ive heard Dublin have been doing a lot of work on “spacial awareness in the dangerzone” and cluxtons kick out strategy aims to nullify the presence of the o’sheas in midfield.

This is brilliant stuff by Gavin and shows how much thought goes into GGA games these days

[quote=“The Wild Colonial Bhoy, post: 833696, member: 80”]ive heard Dublin have been doing a lot of work on “spacial awareness in the dangerzone” and cluxtons kick out strategy aims to nullify the presence of the o’sheas in midfield.

This is brilliant stuff by Gavin and shows how much thought goes into GGA games these days[/quote]
What plans have they to protect the honeypot?

brennan should be more suited to Mayo as they will run straight through the middle as opposed to gooch dragging him all over the place…

[quote=“The Wild Colonial Bhoy, post: 833696, member: 80”]ive heard Dublin have been doing a lot of work on “spacial awareness in the dangerzone” and cluxtons kick out strategy aims to nullify the presence of the o’sheas in midfield.

This is brilliant stuff by Gavin and shows how much thought goes into GGA games these days[/quote]
Yeah it is interesting how both football and hurling have evolved in terms of tactics from days of a corner forward playing as a third midfielder - makes the analysis and predictions more interesting too in terms of how teams are set up and how opposition go about breaking down a system

[quote=“The Wild Colonial Bhoy, post: 833696, member: 80”]ive heard Dublin have been doing a lot of work on “spacial awareness in the dangerzone” and cluxtons kick out strategy aims to nullify the presence of the o’sheas in midfield.

This is brilliant stuff by Gavin and shows how much thought goes into GGA games these days[/quote]
Not to be outdone by James Horan giving insructions to Mayo players through earphones each player wears during training sessions, Gavin has constantly blasted out “Danger Zone” by Glenn Frey over the loudspeakers at Parnell Park during these “danger zone” sessions to reaffirm their importance.

If he does they will be 8-9 points down at half time.

No not really. But they are just better defenders, so maybe to the lazy viewer it might seem they are being more defensive than Dublin with both teams being so out and out attacking teams. It’s just that Mayo will do better defensively

How come “the greatest” did not clean out Cian O Sullivan?

Dublin adjusted, Kerry tired around him, Bastick strengthened the Dublin midfield, Andrews held ball better on '40. Any number of effects from changes made outside Brennan and Coopers control.

Cooper was amazing in that game, a sheer joy to watch as he copper fastened his position in the pantheon of GAA All Time greats. Its been a pleasure to follow his career.

If he drops Brennan or retains him?

Brennan is undroppable.

A composite Dublin-Mayo team:

Cluxton

Cuniffe
O’Carroll
Higgins

McCarthy
O’Sullivan
McCaffrey

McAuley
A. O’Shea

Flynn
Dillon
Connolly

Mannion
O’Connor
Brogan

10 Dublin
5 Mayo

[quote=“myboyblue, post: 833714, member: 180”]Dublin adjusted, Kerry tired around him, Bastick strengthened the Dublin midfield, Andrews held ball better on '40. Any number of effects from changes made outside Brennan and Coopers control.

Cooper was amazing in that game, a sheer joy to watch as he copper fastened his position in the pantheon of GAA All Time greats. Its been a pleasure to follow his career.[/quote]

So “the greatest” was NOT able to adapt, but everyone else was, at least everyone else in A blue jersey. You are making excuses for him. He was excellent when nobody marked him ( I do realise his footballing intelligence afforded him space) but once someone marked him tight he was destroyed. In isolation were that 2nd half the first half you’d have to be taking him off.

The Gooch was a fabulous footballer, but he is/was a moaning diving princess who get rated far too highly.

[quote=“Bandage, post: 833716, member: 9”]If he drops Brennan or retains him?

Brennan is undroppable.[/quote]

He has to play him. More because starting Bastick against the 2 O Se’s would be madness. As alluded to above Brennan will survive better against power running as opposed to a ball playing centre forward.

He’s till a liability though

You don’t consider the Gooch to be a fabulous footballer, present tense, Kev?

[quote=“Sidney, post: 833718, member: 183”]A composite Dublin-Mayo team:

Cluxton

Cuniffe
O’Carroll
Higgins

McCarthy
O’Sullivan
McCaffrey

McAuley
A. O’Shea

Flynn
Dillon
Connolly

Mannion
O’Connor
Brogan

10 Dublin
5 Mayo[/quote]

FFS Sid. O’ Carroll?

You’d have 4 Dublin backs over Mayos much better defenders? You are truly in la la land.

Ridiculously simplistic assessment of the modern game, tactics adapt and change to lessen a players influence at the highest level. Cooper still had an influence in the 2nd half (it took a dreadful swipe to prevent him scoring what would no doubt have been a game changing goal at one point), but God Almighty (ie Maurice) couldn’t have done anymore than Cooper did once the changes I mentioned were undertaken.

I actually credit Gavin and O Sullivan for doing as well as they did when they saw the wreckage that was the Dublin backline in that opening period.

It’s easy to defend well when you’re playing against a pub team, a one man attack and a three man forward line made up of midgets and a crocked old man, as Mayo have done in their last three matches.

Dublin’s high pressing game will rape Mayo, especially the likes of Cafferkey who is slow and ponderous coming out with the ball.

Expect the scoreline at the 10 minute mark to be something like Dublin 2-5 Mayo 0-0.

He is and always will be. He’s nowhere near the level he was 2,34 years ago even though the media tries to big him up.

Gavin made a massive mistake thinking Brennan was the man for him, but he did the right thing eventually an did what everyone shoul be doing, put a fast tagger in him and show him no respect (or at least not too much respect).

The Gooch and Kerry fooled/bullied the refs into over protecting him and managers stopped their tight marking guys going hard. 2009 was the worst in AI final. He got an armchair ride since then.

Any bit of space at all and he’ll kill you. He gets that at club and was getting it with Kerry too as for some bizarre reason it took 2.5 games for a few manager to cop into what to do.

I expect little from him from now on.

[quote=“myboyblue, post: 833726, member: 180”]Ridiculously simplistic assessment of the modern game, tactics adapt and change to lessen a players influence at the highest level. Cooper still had an influence in the 2nd half (it took a dreadful swipe to prevent him scoring what would no doubt have been a game changing goal at one point), but God Almighty (ie Maurice) couldn’t have done anymore than Cooper did once the changes I mentioned were undertaken.

I actually credit Gavin and O Sullivan for doing as well as they did when they saw the wreckage that was the Dublin backline in that opening period.[/quote]

Horse shit. It’s not simplistic at all, it’s even easier than that. In the first half nobody marked him, it seemed the Dublin midfield and half forwards were instructed to come back and harass Gooch with Brennan dropping off to cove the full back line. This failed miserably as Gooch was too cut and starting delivering ball without hardly touching it. I actually think Brennan was the fall guy for a failed tactic there. He lost confidence as well, but the tactics didn’t work.

Gooch was nowhere near guaranteed a shot at goal not to mind a goal when fouled that time. And he was only getting it cos someone else win it. I Sullivan ate him alive, end of.

“End of” Good man Kev :smiley: