Epl 2011/2012

If the fa dont believe Evra then they are racist.

Disappointing the lack of condemnation on here from Liverpool fans for this sickening racist attack on Mr Evra.

Also the Mick McCarthy cheerleaders are awfully quiet of late, 5 defeats on the bounce for “big mick”.

we have a thing called presumption of innocence mbb

if the allegations are proven then suarez should face a lengthy ban and huge fine. conversely, if they are unproven as the 3 previous times that evra has alleged racism then evra should face the same ban and fine

Can you link me the 3 previous times Evra has personally alleged racial abuse has been said to him on a football field?

www.google.com

Disappointing to see you accuse the man of crying wolf on racism on 3 different occasions yet not providing any evidence of it. Its almost like there isnt any and its just Liverpool fans regurgitating information they’ve read on internet forums.

It was twice, not three times but stop being so pedantic. He accused Steve finnan and the chelsea grounds man previously.

Not being pedantic. So already its gone from 3 incidents to 2. Links to both incidents where he did so. Some commentators last night were suggesting that Evra in fact hasn’t accused anyone of racially abusing him prior to this. Curious to see where both you and Art are getting this information. I in fact have no opinion on the matter and would like you to help me decide.

if you want to decide, both the guardian and bbc report that skysports have absolutely no footage of suarez abusing evra racially. so much for " there are cameras, you can hear him say a certain word to me at least ten times"

Finnan wasn’t accused by Evra. He was accused by some of the deaf fans watching on TV based their lip reading. Link here

He was cleared and Evra never insinuated anything.

So we are now down from 3 previous incidents as referenced by Art Foley above, to 1 solitary incident. Thank you for that croppy_boy.

Art/Chocolate Mice, can you please give some evidence of the remaining instance where Mr Evra himself accused someone of racially abusing him.

In the Chelsea incident it was a Man Utd member of staff that made the accusation of racism.
Evra has never accused anyone of racism.

Typical Fooley, tough on the socially deprived weak on millionaire rascists.

http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/premier-league/2011/10/17/2715022/liverpool-want-manchester-united-defender-patrice-evra-banned-if-

Back in 2008 the Frenchman alleged he was the target of racial abuse from a Chelsea groundsman as he was warming down after a match at Stamford Bridge, which led to an on-pitch brawl for which the defender received a four-match ban. [indent=1]

Now stop going back to your pedantic self. You’ve been far more tolerable the last 2 weeks :guns:[/indent]

If this is the “third” or, second instance of evidence which Foley and Chocolate Mice are referring to then it would seem Evra has never accused anyone of racially abusing him, and in fact has no previous in this sort of carry on.

Perhaps there are other instances that we don’t know of. We shouldn’t be hasty to condemn Art and Chocolate Mice. I will give them the chance to explain themselves.

Care to look into that some more Mac?

can you provide evidence evra was racially abused on saturday by suarez?

Stop trying to change the subject Art. I never claimed he was or he wasn’t. You claimed 3 instances or previous and haven’t backed up one of them.

ahem

So you’re not going to condemn it then?

And you’re not going to provide evidence of the three previous instances you outlined?

Consistently avoiding the question.

You’ll make a fine man of the law. Fucking hell.

Goal.com is a good enough source for me. Don’t think I need to look any further.

as i said earlier, IF suarez racially abused evra then he deserves a lengthy ban and huge fine. if the allegations are proved baseless then evra should face the same sanction. the golden thread in law is the presumption of innocence. unlike the helen lovejoys like yourself who think suarez is guilty without a shred of evidence. can we not just all agree evra is a cunt and await the determination of the FA committe