[quote=“count of monte cristo, post: 739757, member: 348”]Key word i left out was “not”
And MR. RDoyle snr has far in excess of those years of experience and well you know it, having benefited from same.[/quote]
I thought he was an alright sort back when attempts were made to amalgamate. His own know it all clubmates used give him dogs abuse though.
`y[quote=“KIB man, post: 740208, member: 208”]I thought he was an alright sort back when attempts were made to amalgamate. His own know it all clubmates used give him dogs abuse though.[/quote]
yeah there was a bad element there, an uncoachable few, who didnt stand the test of time.
[quote=“caoimhaoin, post: 740202, member: 273”]Yes Runt it would. I suggest looking up the hip flexor-Psoas specific stretch. It may need activating and/or stretching. To activate the Psoas you can do sets of hanging leg raises.
The hip flexor stretch variation in case you can’t find it is you basic hip flexor stretch but add a raised opposite arm and slowly turn your head back to the leg behind you and hold steady. This releases the part of your hip Flexors in your middle back. These not being flexible often inhibit hip movement and/or transfer work to your lumbar area which you don’t want. An overwork hip or lumbar area can often lead to pain (from too much work) in the other area if you get what I mean. This could be the tighness and lack of movement in your Glute.
The other explanation is you kick too much off one side and the Glute itself is working too much.[/quote]
Squeezing your groin and butt cheek and holding for 20 seconds while doing this stretch gets the most out of it and helps strengthen it.
Another stretch to do after this to loosen further… If you find a structure hip high that you can place your fully extended leg on (Smyth machine is best as you can have bar under and against side of foot to trap it) place the standing foot facing 45 degrees away from resting leg and then twist body towards the direction of standing foot and hold when you feel stretch.
Twisting lunges with a light bar on shoulders is another…
This is what kev has been banging on about re picking up and working on weaknesses first…
These lads just can’t be coached 
[quote=“The Runt, post: 740216, member: 181”]Something like this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfswfLuW_tI
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That’s the one… In that first one there while video is frozen his back leg looks a little too stretched… I’d keep leg straight and push forward with hip and squeeze ass… Like Jeb said, when you feel the stretch lean a little to the side with opposite hand in the air, hold, then lean your back, Back a bit to get the most out of it all the time squeezing your glute…imagine you are pushing your hand up through the ceiling all the time pushing from hip and glute.
No not really runt. The first part he does alright but where his left leg is out in font then you raise your right hand overhead pulling back with comfort. Then once comfortable with that you twist your torso and try and look around to see your toes, keeping as straight and relaxed as possible. Takes a little practice but the practice is serving to improve flexibility as well.
His first exercise is what I call a donkey kick, I use this as a Glute exercise for the first year (out of Colts/19’s) players we have. Very good strength/flexibility exercise, a dual purpose exercise.
[quote=“caoimhaoin, post: 740280, member: 273”]No not really runt. The first part he does alright but where his left leg is out in font then you raise your right hand overhead pulling back with comfort. Then once comfortable with that you twist your torso and try and look around to see your toes, keeping as straight and relaxed as possible. Takes a little practice but the practice is serving to improve flexibility as well.
His first exercise is what I call a donkey kick, I use this as a Glute exercise for the first year (out of Colts/19’s) players we have. Very good strength/flexibility exercise, a dual purpose exercise.[/quote]
What about the general exercise I usually do, where you lying on your back and rest your ankle on your opposite knee and pull it towards your chest , is that good?
You mean a glute stretch?. They are good alright, would normally do them along with a lumbar back stretch, both are fairly text book flexibility stretches
[quote=“count of monte cristo, post: 740203, member: 348”]Quite simple really, I play the same position as my football fwiend, and have simialr enough ability to him…
The Runt coudl be a sciaitc issue, had something similar myself last year.[/quote]
Sciatic is neural, runt seems to be indicating lack of ROM and or stiffness.
On your program, it’s a fair enough way of looking at it, and most likely will bring you results, but ask yourself these questions.
They are just a sample, but you get the gist. If you say ya to all them, then your on the pigs back. If not then you might still be on the pigs back, but it’s a little more dicey.
Yes, but the text books seem to be getting ripped up here, so I want to be sure it’s not a waste of time. It’s a handy one cause you can do it at your desk.
Lower back/lumbar flexibility is over rated. I stretched my back incessantly for years and always had some slight problems. Strength it appears is more important for the lumbar region. I started adding alot more lower back strength work since my major sciatic issue last year, massive improvement. I use snatch grip deadliest and regular old back extentions.
Runt - that’s a great stretch, it’s part of a quad of stretches I use given to me by a Physio when sorting my sciatic. Use it 4-5 times a week.
Runt I read some of my first fitness text book from around 2002 there before I left Ireland and I was shocked at what they were teaching us. Sports Sciene and general information about Bio & Neuro Mechanics are developing at an amazing rate, it’s hard (and expensive) to stay up.
Would something like cycling/spinning help loosen that up too? I did spinning in the altitude gym in Limerick last night and I just tried that glute stretch at my desk and it’s actually way more free than what it was earlier in the week.
Runt I found rolling out the hip flexors with a foam roller before stretching made a huge difference, a tennis ball will do the same job.
Ya, foam rolling is great.
Runt I am not a massive fan of spinning for footballers, at least not too much of it. Reasoning it works your quads very hard and building your quads too much can lead to hamstring issues. On the plus side you are off your feet which is a benefit.
I really can’t see how spinning would loosen you up though, nut that’s just based on my own experience, nothing scientific. I always felt stiff after spinning, well sore more than stiff. But that might be because I never did it consistently in recent times to get used to it.
It may well be a reasoning for you loosening up. As though could be te altitude gym, which I don’t know alot about, but being at altitude after adaption is very good for your cardio vascular system and the better that is the better your muscles work and thus may add some relaxing results.
The Runt where did you say you trained last night?
Just broke the 20hr mark fasting and I’m not even that hungry… That includes a 10k jog earlier…food is for the weak.
inspirational
Couldn’t manage that. I have a very high metabolism and would be very cranky if i didn’t get at least 4 meals a day.
Weak.