Team works to create and attack and misses, puck out to free man and a point.
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We need to give time to Gearoid and Tom Morrissey to run back to their own 65.
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Iâm all for slowing down puckouts but we canât have a hurling match going on for hours and hours like a game of rugby.
PauseâŚsetâŚpuckout
Let the coaches earn their corn and find a solution
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If it was reffed properly, there would be no quick puckouts. Every so often a ref tries to enforce it at the start of a game but never keeps it up for the game. Mainly due to teams ignoring him!
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Ref enforced it all through in the Waterford-Clare game the last day Iâm pretty sure
Are you suggesting a type of sin bin for pre match antics like Mccarthy last week?
Quick puckouts after points shouldnât be allowed. Half back goes upfield and scores, a quick puckout to his position and a very cheap point is awarded.
Quick puckouts after wides are fine. Teams firing wides from distance knowing they can reset shouldnât be rewarded.
Quick puckouts after points are already not allowed cause the ref has to write down the score.
If theyâre allowed after a wide then whatâs the incentive for attacking play? Thereâs a chance you miss in your shot and are near guaranteed to concede a point after, quick puckout and a free shot over the bar. No contest for the ball, no entertaining play. A two point swing and itâs shit to watch. Itâs actually a blight on the game.
Some referees are allowing quick puckouts after scores, thatâs the problem. A few of the under 20s games in Munster this year have felt like training games.
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Davyâs teams with his sweeper are divils for this. Wexford would lose the ball in midfield, opposition would drive forward, hint of a goal chance but sweeper would cover that off & theyâd settle for a tap over point from 20-30 yards out.
Meanwhile, knowing we had that cover player, Dee OâKeeffe wouldnât have committed to chasing back fully & would have made a sneaky run to the sideline opposite. Then the man with the earpiece behind the goal would tell Fanning to puck it out to an unmarked OâKeeffe. Heâd catch, trot forward a bit into space, make the angle more favourable & pop the ball over.
Huh
agree with all of that, except in Wexfords case more often than not theyâd drive it wide
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Itâs an interesting point you make. I think it was stupid rather than filthy and there was no intent , just a player being over exuberant and players are always pumped at throw in⌠him having to sit out 10 minutes might have been punishment enough and would have certainly saved the spectacle. I have to agree with you here
That is just clever tbf and managers will always exploit the rules that are there to the limits.
Obviously, weâve seen with the football this year that the âcontestâ does appeal to people.
However, they arenât the same games and I would say that the spectacle of the aerial contest in football is more appealing than hurling. While a great catch by the likes of a Peter Duggan or whoever is great; in football, if the ball isnât caught clean, the break is picked up very quickly and the game continues.
In hurling, that happens at times but there is also the potential for it to descend into a ruck as the team under pressure will do whatever they can to keep the ball in the ruck until they have a chance to win it.
I wouldnât be a fan of no-contact hurling but I think just enforcing the rules that are already there re: second whistle on scores, all backs outside the '21 for all puckouts and youâd generally be okay, I think.
Steps remains the big problem for me in terms of the lack of interesting contests.
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And keep the keeper in the square for puckouts and have the puckout out clear the 21
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Steps and throws. Both horrible.
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I know there are a few dissidents in the coaching community but, from my experience, the football rule changes have largely been positive and have definitely improved the spectacle.
I suspect that they might open the pathway to maybe making a few tweaks to hurling too. Some of the most vocal hurling people can be precious enough and against any sort of change but I think trialling a tweak to the handpass rule, plus clamping down massively on steps and maybe a small tweak to how you enforce puckouts wouldnât be the worst.
I just donât know if youâd get the same obvious improvements to the spectacle that we got in football and thatâs where the dissenters are likely to win.
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Its a silly enough quirk that while all players need to be outside the 21 when the puckout is struck, they can encroach back in to receive it.
Iâd ban the full back handpassing it straight back to the goalie too, although this can often be just a sign that a team has totally run out of ideas when they resort to it.
@Big_Dan_Campbell made a suggestion before that a puckout should be hit like a free from the six yard box.
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