Galway v Kilkenny All Ireland Hurling Final 2012

[quote=“Fran, post: 705378”]

You don’t seem to be allowing for a Kilkenny improvement.

What alternatives do Galway have on the bench?[/quote]

I just don’t think that the improvement will be as automatic as an many expect. The patterns in the first half last Sunday were similar to the Leinster final despite it being a stronger Kilkenny team. Kilkenny don’t seem to have learnt the lessons from that game so why will they learn them now.

I’d agree that Galway are weak on the bench too but I just see more obvious room for improvement in their starting 15 than Kilkennys.

The patterns of the first half were similar but Galway were out of sight at half time in the Leinster Final, went into cruise control in the 2nd half and deservedly won the game by 10 points in the end. In contrast to that Kilkenny drew and probably should’ve won the game on Sunday by 4-5 points. I don’t understand how you don’t consider that an improvement

[quote=“Fran, post: 705381”]

The patterns of the first half were similar but Galway were out of sight at half time in the Leinster Final, went into cruise control in the 2nd half and deservedly won the game by 10 points in the end. In contrast to that Kilkenny drew and probably should’ve won the game on Sunday by 4-5 points. I don’t understand how you don’t consider that an improvement[/quote]

I don’t think Galway were as clinical last Sunday as they were in the Leinster final. Kilkenny were obviously better than that game but they didn’t seem to be able to nullify the Galway game plan in the way many people expected hence my belief that they didn’t learn the lessons from the Leinster final. Either that or they just don’t have the players to stop that game plan.

Cha was never the same either. Obviously a bad oul dose the mumps

Or maybe they were just cycling off whatever they were on.

I think your missing the point slightly… If KK are allowed they will wreak havoc. Tipp allowed them we didn’t. (Or maybe we just have 2 different views on it)

Lets be honest, Tipps preparations appears to be well off the required standard this year.

[quote=“Kinvara, post: 705385”]

That’s a given, I just think they’re easier to suppress now than they once were. I know Galway people don’t like that idea but it’s just part of any team’s natural life-cycle. In 1999 Clare produced blistering performances in the replays against Tipperary and Galway, yet should have been beaten by both the first day out.

The still had that extra gear but they just weren’t capable of consistently finding it anymore. Of course the competition moves on but teams go into decline as well. As Sick Boy’s unifying theory of life goes, “at one point you’ve got it, then you lose it, then it’s gone.”

People are afraid of change Hannibal. Most are subservient by nature and are comfortable with Kilkenny being the top dogs. They are so blinded by their obedience that they cannot see the truth in front of them. Twice now Galway have matched Kilkenny and indeed up until the 2nd half on Sunday out-hurled them. But for a lack of resolve in that 2nd half, Galway would be Champions now. They will learn from that and won’t be found wanting the next day.
What excuses did Kilkenny have this time? They knew what to expect from Galway this time around, had JJ and Fennelly back in, there was no backdoor. They gave it everything and still they couldn’t beat Galway. The times they are a changing. Fear not.

When did Kilkenny last have to contest a replay? Galway came from a similar unlikely position when down in injury time against Dublin in the relegation playoff and pulled it out of the fire to get the draw. They then went on to hammer Dublin in the replay in Portlaoise. They’ve been in this situation before and you can be sure that experience will stand to them in 3 weeks.

No, I can acknowledge we are meeting a team thats past their peak alright. Understandable, with some of them having peaked every year for nearly 10 years. JJ Delaneys attempt to stop Canning between the 14 and the 21 line on the Hogan stand side being a perfect example of this.

How does Damien Hayes, David Burke and Cyril Donnellan get possession of the ball and run directly at the KK defense. Coen, Collins, Regan, Donohue, Tannian, Smith, Moore are just going to have to find a target with more accuracy than they did last Sunday.

Take Donohue pass down the line to Burke in the Leinster final, we saw nothing like that on Sunday… prob due to the increased intensity of the game and also a mix of nerves.

I think we’ll improve greatly in this department in the replay.

I will be very surprised if KK are held goalless again though.

2004 V Clare
You are a naive boy if you think they learned anything from a horrifically bad Dublin team this year in a relegation final replay. That’s long forgotten and isn’t relevant. The respect Kilkenny gave to Galway last Sunday was a mistake and it won’t happen again.
3 Week break for one final push for Kilkenny, they may be “finished” as many or saying and may not win anything next year but they will win on the 30th.

What respect?

I said the experience will stand to them and it will. It is relevant because that replay in Portlaoise was the making of the team as we know it today. Kilkenny gave Galway as much ‘respect’ as they were let.

I’d agree with that. Everyone was talking about the kilkenny backlash for this game but it didn’t arrive. They would have raised their game if they could have for the final, I don’t think they have another gear for the replay.

The only thing kilkenny do have is that fennelly will have another 3 weeks under him and surely Richie won’t be selected midfield again, which could be a big plus for them. On the other hand Galway will be concentrated on correcting what they did wrong in the second half and deliver better balls, and Donnellan has a nother 3 weeks and will come into the game more.

Can’t see Galway lose it now.

I can see the respect for Galway all over Codys face here…

:lol: Cody and his bitches. How truly pathetic. ttown knows he was talking through his hole KP. We’ll probably have to get used to this for a while with the influx from the farmyard. The plebs won’t take long to weed out, maybe one or two might turn out ok, we’ll see.

Stage 2 Rattled… http://cp12-eu.stablehost.com/~thefreek/board/public/style_emoticons/default/laugh.png

Brian Cody has issues

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Go3UbuN4RXQ

It gets very good around 1.33

Stage 3
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President to review minute’s silence
12 September 2012

GAA president Liam O’NeillGAA president Liam O’Neill has mooted the idea of replacing the minute’s silence before games with a round of applause.

His suggestion comes after the minute’s silence that was held before last Sunday’s All-Ireland hurling final as a mark of respect to Kilmacud Crokes chairman Tom Murphy was poorly observed.

“I never realised the importance of a minute’s silence until my mother died last year,” the Laois man told The Irish Daily Star.

“I wasn’t expecting it. I know the lift that gave so the moment’s silence is important, but I think applause is a much more uplifting kind of a thing than silence.”

O’Neill also stressed that clubs will be the main beneficiaries from the All-Ireland final replay, which will net an additional €3 million for the Association.

“The idea that we’re a grab all association - we don’t need the money,” he said.

"I don’t know how people can’t just see that it all goes back anyway. We only exist to recycle, renew and regenerate. Eighty-six per cent of every cent we take in goes back to club and counties across the board.

“We don’t want anymore, we don’t need anymore and even in this bonus territory it might even be 100 per cent. It amazes me that people believe we want to amass money. Money is of no value to us unless we can give it out.”
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