Galway v Kilkenny All Ireland Hurling Final 2012

Yeah, sure, just disregard the concept of experience. Joe Canning being in his first All-Ireland Final is exactly the same as Shefflin being in his 12th!

The last team to turn up in an All-Ireland final against a team with recent All-Ireland success and be victorious is Clare in 1995. 2009 Tipp is a fine example of teams hurling well in an All-Ireland with little or no experience but here’s the thing, they still lost. Losing one to win one isn’t just a clichĂ© there is genuine proof of it. There is no real historical evidence of a team like Galway coming from nowhere to win their first title in decades.

Teams that lost one to win one:
Kilkenny losing 1998 and 1999 to win 2000.
Cork losing 2003 to win 2004
Tipp losing 2009 to win 2010
You could consider Kilkenny in 2011 and 2006 too.

Everything you are saying there you could apply to Waterford in 2008.
Oh they don’t fear Kilkenny. They have never been beaten badly by Kilkenny.
They have beaten them recently in the League/Leinster Final.

Galway haven’t been hammered by Kilkenny [much, 2006, 2004] because they hadn’t got to even a semi-final during the years of Kilkenny dominance before this year. Their tradition of capitulation has seen them bow out consistently in July or earlier. Summer hurling is not the same as Autumn hurling.
And I wasn’t talking about Kilkenny playing at a higher level than their previous matches, I was talking about Galway facing a better standard of competition on Sunday than they have all year.
Westmeath, Offaly, Kilkenny, Cork. Do you think they will face the same Kilkenny that they faced in the Leinster Final performance wise? I don’t. The Tipperary game may be the peak for Kilkenny this year. What if the Leinster Final is the peak for Galway? What if the Leinster Final is their peak by far? They will need to play to the Leinster Final level to win. That medicore performance they put in against Cork will not be good enough. They will also need to start fast. If that doesn’t happen and the go behind early who are their leaders to drag them back into the game?

It is a massive ask of Galway to win this. Physically and psychologically.
You cannot just disregard the psychological aspect of playing in your first All-Ireland final. It is huge pressure and when playing this Kilkenny team there is always the nightmare scenario that Waterford experienced looming in the background. Nobody wants to be embarrassed like that in front of 80000 people. And that spectre weighs especially heavy on a Galway team with a history of throwing in the towel when things start going against them. If they do match Kilkenny physically and mentally then we really will have a game on our hands and if they win they will be worthy champions. But all the pressure is on Galway to make sure they put in a performance because if they don’t we all know what will happen. For Kilkenny, this is just another match.

On a personal note, I will be attending my 13th All-Ireland Final. Pretty good going seeing how I didn’t get to one until I was 12.

Where would be the best place to go the night before the All-Ireland in Dublin? And don’t say Coppers, that place will be wedged.

Are ye seriously not worried about being cut wide open twice in one year? I mean ye were a shambles in the first half of the Leinster final. Where did that performance come from?

True ye have recovered some form since but the jury is out on the resistance that Tipp provided in the semi final. I would suggest that Limerick offered a bigger test.

Galway have nothing to fear.

Out on the Liffey

Shelbourne Park

The M7

And after that


Might go down to Searsons for a pint


Not reopened yet pal.

What’s the name of the dive ye drink in on a Saturday night? Might go in there and start a shouldering competition


I’ll be gutted if we lose but the twice in one year thing has nothing to do with it. This Kilkenny team doesn’t owe it’s fans anything

Maybe but plenty of teams have done it in football and one of Donegal or Mayo will do it this year.

In fact in the last 20 years in football where an experienced team has played a newcomer it’s the newcomer more often than not who has won.

Sixth hurling final if I bother going.
1992, 1994, 2008, 2010, 2011.

Reckon I’ve been to 27 football finals and 20 hurling.

A team that goes out afraid of being cut open are the type of team that KIB man is describing above.

I have no fear of us being cut open like that again. This Kilkenny team has a history of making sure they don’t make the same mistake over and over.

Do you expect Galway to perform that well again?
Performances like that are not a light switch that you can turn on and off when you please.
I can’t see Kilkenny playing that badly and I can’t see Galway playing that well again.

8 football. 1992, 1993, 1994, 1995, 2001, 2008, 2010, 2011,

Are you not from Kilkenny?

He is a Waterford man originally

This year will be my 16th hurling final. I’ve never been to a football final