Gary Speed - RIP

You are really missing the point here.

A decent act by a decent guy, regaled on the anniversary of his death gets you worked up?

You need to relax.

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He held on to the story for 8 years. Introduced it like it was going to be ground-breaking and then basically said, he gave me a spin home for a week or two

A lot of simpletons reeled in by that one

It’s a nice story about a deceased ex-footballer that outlined his decency and humility and it got you worked up?

Odd.

What’s odd is that you’re disrespecting 96 dead football fans ad nauseum on another thread and are getting sanctimonious about me having an alternate opinion on a puff piece.

Reprioritise.

I’m not respecting the dead at all.

I think the Liverpool fans should be held accountable for those deaths though - that is not disrespect.

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You called them drunken yobs and murderers and accused them of trying to gain admission without tickets.

As I said, reprioritise.

There’s videos of them trying to gain admission without tickets.

That is true. Liverpool fans have a track record with this. They murdered 39 in Belgium.

People try to gain admission to events without tickets the world over. That’s partly why there’s security and police present.

Did Spurs fans gain admission without tickets a few years previously?

:thinking:

There are numerous examples of gates being broken down over the years at GAA matches

this is like trying to say if you killed somebody in a car accident due to speeding and then claiming loads of other people do it so it’s not my fault.

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No - there was no gate broken down at Hillsborough, whereas gates were broken down at GAA matches

GAA supporters are hooligans

Where & when, Sid?

Deaths involved?

Tipperary v Cork 1987

Gates at the Killinan End broken down by marauding Tipperary hooligans

You sure?

How many deaths?

Raymond Smith wrote about it numerous times

It’s irrelevant whether there were any deaths

There was a gate broken down - 57k was the capacity and it was widely written at the time that at least 60k were in the stadium

Unlike at Hillsborough where there was no gate broken down and the Leppings Lane terrace was under capacity

I was in the terrace and while it was full I can fully assure you there was no crush.

Have you a link to Raymond’s numerous views?

Correction - two gates were broken down

At the Munster final between Cork and Tipperary the official attendance is given as 56,005. Two gates, however, were broken down before the start of the game and an estimated 3,000 people gained free entry to the Killinan terrace.