General Election 2011

One major difference is that FF are no longer calling the shots, the previous mentioning of this was merely an invitation for the opposition to row in behind whatever the government decided, there would have been no forum for meaningful input from the non-government parties.

Still don’t see how the greens position has changed in real terms, before today their stance was ‘we’ll support the government until the finance bill is passed’ and after today it’s ‘we’ll support the government untill the finance bill is passed from the opposition benches’ I don’t see why where you’re sitting makes such a huge difference.

In fairness to Gilmore, and I’m not normally a huge fan, he has just hit the nail on the head in his presser when he said of FF’s reluctance to get the bill passed this week “I suspect this has more to do with FF’s recovery rather than the country’s recovery”

I agree that it’s not a massive change but from the Greens perspective it gets them the hell out of there. They don’t want to be part of any delaying tactics, they don’t want to support it being dragged out, they don’t want people mentioning the Climate Change Bill and suspecting they have other motives. They’re now effectively saying the same thing as Labour and FG - get the vote done as soon as possible and that’s it for this Dáil.

I don’t think you can ask much more of them than that at this stage. Whether they should have left sooner or not gone into government in the first place etc is all irrelevant now. They don’t feel they’re being communicated to by FF, they feel they’d be strung along in government and they’re not prepared to have any part in any government that will put FF ahead of the country. That’s their stance.

I take your first point too on this being slightly different but for the purposed of the Finance Bill alone, which was all the Greens wanted the National Unity on, it’s the same effect.

Reports on RTE there that Cowen isn’t going to run again.

Bye bye Greens and good riddance.

The Green Party - RIP.

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What a list of exclusives that is right there! :clap:

Brian Lenihan into 9/2 today from 10/1 yesterday to become Fianna Fails next leader. Crazyhorse was unquoted yesterday in the betting, i was going to ring today to enquire about him, but i see he has been priced up now at 50/1.

Cowen focussing all his energies on important matters of State. He can’t be distracted by matters like leadership heaves in FF.

What’s the first thing he does. Go to a poxy club football match in Portlaoise.

FFS

Mary Lou McDonald.

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sick.

So hello Mary Lou, goodbye arms.

Anyone else see the old dear from Tullamore on the news lady night.

"Yes Brian is a Biffo. A bright intelligent fellow from Offaly. That’s what Brian is. "

Decent editorial from the Financial Times today on the FF legacy:

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/de38ea96-2722-11e0-80d7-00144feab49a.html#axzz1Bw5q96Jb

[indent]Brian Cowen, the prime minister, was forced into calling early elections on Thursday, to resign as party leader on Saturday, all after winning a confidence vote from his parliamentary party on Tuesday. His discredited leadership had been challenged after undisclosed meetings with Sean FitzPatrick, the banker at the heart of the financial crisis, came to light. What followed was utterly cynical.

Six members of the cabinet resigned and Mr Cowen tried to give an electoral leg-up to lesser-known Fianna Fáil MPs with scattergun offers of ministerial portfolios. This reshuffle – and eventually the government itself – was scuttled by the party’s Green coalition partners, leaving Fianna Fáil in meltdown and mutiny.

These factional antics, as Ireland faces arguably the worst crisis in its history as an independent nation, could turn the expected Fianna FĂĄil rout at the polls into electoral annihilation.

That may be richly deserved. This is, after all, the party that through its cronyism and incompetence artificially prolonged the boom of the 1990s into the credit and property bubble of the past decade, and then gave a blanket guarantee to its banker friends that has ended in the humiliation of Ireland becoming a ward of the European Central Bank and the International Monetary Fund.[/indent]

Sean Haughey commented during the weekend that Cowen put his own future as leader ahead of the party and country. He promised jobs for the lads in return for votes which resulted in the botched reshuffle.

Of course Sean’s father was a man full of morals, and would never have done such a thing.

Farmer in dig at the late great CJ part 652…FFS!

Anyone know how i would go about getting a postal vote

thanks for reminding me to attend haugheys grave and drive a stake through it.

Re postal vote, anyone who thinks haughey is great is clearly unvoteworthy

my vote is worth far more than that of a humberside slaphead who sponged off his girlfriedn for years

Send me a PM with your options and I’ll put it in for you. No postal votes for overseas I’m afraid.

Is she married Dunph? could we fix you up with her I wonder?

typical bullshit from fooley

haughey did a lot of good things for this country as did ahern

funny to see people have a go at bertie for been slightly corrupt but the history books will be very kind to bertie as he brought peace to this island- the likes of fooley giving out that his tax rate is slightly higher due to some poor economic policies is short termism in the extreme

sorry you feel that way buddy. We’ll just have to agree to disagree

Charlie was our Prince, tis only a vocal minority that would see it otherwise. That cunt that desecrated his grave will get his in due course.