General Election 2020 Part 2

I’d agree with that.

I don’t think anyone thinks that there is a quick fix solution.

I am pretty certain that FGs main effort of firing more and more at the private market in current spending is not going to fix it, is going to blow the budget on current spending and leave the state and market in a worse off position long term. To long term stabilise and improve the market the state needs a substantial stock of houses. For that to happen the state needs to pivot away from the FG approach and start building. SF propose to do this. It makes eminent sense.

The major problem is that all the money being spent on the current short term fixes has to be maintained while you invest a lot in the long term solution. Essentially it will cost a fuck load to buy our way out of the years of bad policies.

The same is true of health. Huge money is being wasted and it will take huge investment to create the space to steer things in a better direction. One of the main reasons health spending can’t be controlled is there isn’t adequate capacity to fix problems in the cheapest way possible, no step down care facilities so patients kept in expensive hospital beds etc. It will take massive investment to break that cycle.

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SF lied to the electorate, bullshit promises. If anyone does a bit of independent research on this they will see the numbers dont add up . So hopefully we vote again , people had their protest, FF have learned their lesson and realise what people expect. FG will be happy in opposition

Dunno. Ff and fg are pretty much down to their core vote. A lot of the floaters out there that are pissed off with ff in particular for not talking to sf. If the election happens in the next 6/8 weeks itll just increase sfs seats I reckon. Probably at the expense of the smaller left leaning parties. But I cant see ff or fg increasing their core vote in any significant manner

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What lessons have FF learned? They are a nothing party, no policies and no fucking talent.

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I can see FF votes declining if there is another election. People are really pissed off with them. SF will get more seats and FF will be forced into a coalition with them and FF will then finally put down in following election.

There was a perception in some constituencies, e.g. Rathdown, Galway East, Limerick County, that SF couldn’t win a seat and that perception would not be there at another election.

Maybe but I definitely cant see them increasing their seat haul in any significant manner. Theres a couple of constituencies where they ran an extra candidate and split the vote. Theyll address that alright but it wont make a huge differennce. What will be interestkng is assuming that sf run extra candidates, what kind of a surplus theyll have. Will it be enough to hold the left seat haul.

Vote management will be crucial particularly to sf next time round. The fact tgat ff and fg are now down to their core vote means sf will have to manage it accordingly to reap maximum benefit

How have ff and fg always been so popular so? They’ve always been making the hard decisions. Even now with sf at an absolute peak they are still only level with the old firm.
If being in power didn’t damage ff for 80 or so years who’s to say it will damage sf?

If the Vote Left Transfer Left thing holds at another election the actual vote management of no. 1s isn’t that big a deal because it all comes back in transfers anyway. The places SF didn’t win a seat would be the most interesting. So that means O’Donoghue in Limerick, Madigan in Rathdown, Anne Rabbirte Galway East would be at risk, maybe Creed Cork North West. Think Ruth Coppinger would have a good chance second time around. I think there would be a bigger turnout as well with people who didn’t turn out previously coming out to give FFG a kicking.

The whole basis of the western capitalist system since the 1950s has been the mortgage . A relatively large percentage of working people could afford property and that welded them to the system and drove aspiration . Post 2007 this is hugely declining and we are seeing the political consequences .

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Maybe but you have to remember that in some constituencies st had a huge surplus. Assuming all things stay the same that surplus would now be number 2 votes and so the rest of the left leani g parties would now be down to number 3 on the ballot paper

The army council will be meeting with mary lou this weekend and she’ll get further directions what is the best way to approach FF. It was great to see the retired provos taking down the posters this morning

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You’ve hit my big fear here. I think ffg will go into coalition because, despite all the utter drivel they spout about being happy to go into opposition, they are venal, self serving and have a pig like cunning. There is absolutely no way they want to lose the reins. None. Not for a week. They are currently manoeuvring around who gets what.
They will then commence some bland SF-lite policies, and cut enough ground from under SF that voters will move back to them.

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That’s their plan alright but think they will need significant results to get that vote back from SF and one small scandal could topple the government. FFFG are unable to keep their snouts out of the trough and it will probably be a short lived government.

I hope you are correct mate, I really do, but anyone who thinks Leo will happily give up the trappings of power needs their head examined, it’ll happen only if he’s forced. And meehawl has waited a long time for his chance.
Their fingers will have to be spannered off the tiller.

They don’t even have the numbers themselves so they are at the mercy of the opposition.

Theyd be gone by Christmas
The public wont stand for it. Theres a huge mistrust regarding ff and