General Election 2020 Part 2

[Dziekanowski]

This is the exact sort of thing I was talking about earlier when I referenced the cult-like nature of a lot of Sinn Fein supporters and Trump.

Do these sorts of discussions push people towards Sinn Fein? Yes. Because of the populist nature of their modus operandi.

But are these sorts of issues legitimate topics of discussion? Yes.

Are Sinn Fein remotely comparable in terms of policies or in terms of potential harm to the Irish body politic to how Trump dragged US politics and much of US society into the absolute gutter? No.

Do some of their supporters utilise similar paranoid rhetoric to Trump to shut down discussion of seriously problematic issues? Yes.

https://twitter.com/leehamill12/status/1227649790210695169

Hugh Linehan (hlinehan)

[anon61878697]

Every party has its headbangers… Just look at the FG supporters here… I won’t disagree that the party has a bit to go, I’ve said it countless times. There’s a middle party element who weren’t really around during the troubles and grew up in the south that feel a dissonance and disconnect between their experiences and vision of that party and the constant snipes from the establishment.

[Dziekanowski]

@anon61878697

Every party has its headbangers… Just look at the FG supporters here… I won’t disagree that the party has a bit to go, I’ve said it countless times. There’s a middle party element who weren’t really around during the troubles and grew up in the south that feel a dissonance and disconnect between their experiences and vision of that party and the constant snipes from the establishment.

That’s a reasonable, measured response. I take yor point about every party having its headbangers - there are one or two reasonable Fine Gaelers around here and even an odd reasonable Fianna Failer but sadly it is indeed the voices of the headbangers who get amplified.

With more like yourself SF will go far.

[Fulvio_From_Aughnacloy]

Border Poll

[flattythehurdler]

@Gman

. At no point in their manifesto do they state the 100,000 is inclusive of the National Development Plan, which to me is a bit misleading. Considering housing was the main point of the Sinn Fein vote, I think it should just be clarified properly. I also believe that their proposed figures are vastly off. That is, if they believe they can build 50,000 for €6.5b which works out at €130,000 per unit. That is extremely low, even allowing for utilising public land or getting better tax breaks etc, but €130,000 per unit would only just about build something,

Presumably they are not actually going to give them away for free. The vast majority want to see reasonable, realistic home prices, not a free forever home. SF just need to legislate to ensure that these cannot end up as second homes, rentals, or air bnb for a generation.

[the_man_himself]

Would you vote in it?

[carryharry]

@Dziekanowski

…Wait a minute, aren’t you a fanatical supporter of Trump? The same Trump who has been threatening the media for years? You are, aren’t you?And funnily enough, I don’t recall you writing a single word objecting to Trump’s threats against the media.You’re some fucking hypocrite.

The mask is slipping mate, relax.

[Dziekanowski]

Mask? What mask? It’s a balaclava.

[Fulvio_From_Aughnacloy]

Of course.

[gilgamboa]

@anon61878697

No, I’m not. I’m being real… A left coalition won’t work for a multitude of reasons. Everyone knows that.

I wouldnt blame Mary Lou one bit for looking for a comfort blankie like FF here

[carryharry]

Okay, lads.

Back to the topic at hand. The people want change. SF is that change.
Mary Lou and her parties costed manifesto should sail through the scrutiny of any GP member or be good enough for any reasonable Independent.

Let SF get on with it. Forget the nonsense talk about FFG, they have no mandate and no support.
Plus, SF are in no way interested in propping up or being propped up by those bastards.

[Fulvio_From_Aughnacloy]

Not enough reasonable independents and the party of planning irregularities won’t back SF either.

[anon61878697]

56% of the electorate didn’t vote #change or #transferleft.
Square that you bore.

[Tim_Riggins]

You’re scrambling now throwing out insults. You should be preparing for government.

[tallback]

@anon61878697

56% of the electorate didn’t vote #change or #transferleft.
Square that you bore.

FF were campaigning on a platform of change too. So actually in excess of 75% of the electorate voted for change - a huge mandate.

Just get on with it.

[anon61878697]

FFG are one abd the same…they propped up up FG for the last 5 years, or did you firget that… 56% were happy enough with the same.

[anon61878697]

Calling him a bore for looking to stoke up the same arguments that have been had all day, thinking it’s Good wumming, is not scrambling, mate.

[tallback]

@anon61878697

FFG are one abd the same…they propped up up FG for the last 5 years, or did you firget that… 56% were happy enough with the same.

That’s not what FF were saying during the election. They were saying “it’s time for change, get FG out” and presumably that’s what their voters voted for. They specifically said they wouldn’t be continuing with confidence and supply.

Why are you so against change? Why are you trying to deny the will of the people?

Just get on with it.

[Dziekanowski]

@tallback

FF were campaigning on a platform of change too. So actually in excess of 75% of the electorate voted for change - a huge mandate.

Just get on with it.

75% of the electorate voted for change in 2016. Yet Fine Gael weren’t asking Fianna Fail to form a government with 44 TDs, a few minor parties and a load of independents then. Funny that.

[anon61878697]

You’ve sunk to an all time low with that.