You seem to think trump is a great man as he speaks for disenfranchised poor people in America who blame everything that’s bad in their life on the government but at the same time you think disenfranchised poor people in Ireland who blame everything that’s bad in their life on the government are a bunch of moany cunts who need to get on with it.
I think that’s ironic. You might disagree but it’s hardly that confusing.
You have proof of me saying this I presume? If you don’t you’ll have to admit you are a blowhard.
There’s a monumental difference between being poor in America and being poor in Ireland. You clearly haven’t a notion that this is the case.
There’s people in America, and I’m talking millions, with nothing. No health insurance, so if they get cancer or another disease, they just die as they can’t afford treatment. Who are malnutritioned out of lack of wages and access to anything bar the cheapest fast food deal, who drive 25 year old cars and in often cases live in them. And the people who fit the above, often are working minimum wage jobs.
If you’re not working, you are on the streets. Actually on the streets, not the Irish notion that just because you can’t afford a home you are homeless but you are in a hotel or living with parents.
Poor people in America have no access to college education, no hope of improving your life’s lot, just overly prescribed opiates to numb thinking about it.
That’s the reality. But you thinking that’s exactly the same as Irish people who make a conscious decision to just not bother working, that it’s ‘just not worth their while’ while enjoying health cards, the most generous dole in Europe, full free education and housing. For life.
You think they are in the same situation.
And of course you still can’t explain what you meant by gubbermint, what that thing was. I take it you are giving up there it was nonsense in fairness.
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If you think poverty in Ireland is that simple good luck to you. Me typing some big ream of shite here to try and convince you would be just a complete waste of yours and my time. 
I don’t disagree with most of that… But again, your use of language, more so phonetics, suggests the scourge of society is the working or less well off classes. That was my point in starting the thread, not leading a proletarian revolt, nor indeed to be a champion of the down trodden.
In another post on here in relation to the mother and baby I out forth the notion that the middle classes in Ireland have continually brow beat and shamed the less well off since the famine. It has stunted Irish society in lot’s of ways…shame and embarrassment are not great virtues to bestow upon people. I see your looking down on people with an accent, which you’ve openly displayed here in your reply, as a continuation of that shaming.
You’ve teased out the wider arguments here on other topics. Personal responsibility v government intervention. We’re still left with the conundrum of people breaking the pattern of poverty/handout culture… If you grow up in it and it’s your only life example, how do you break it?
Younger people in general do have a greater sense of entitlement. Again, that’s not their fault if that’s the example they’ve been set. Social media has given everyone a voice to feel special and all kinds of people are using it. That’s a different argument altogether but the psychological effects of social media on people isn’t good for humanity. Particularly as most people just find like minded people to enable them.
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Swing and a miss old pal…
I’m up in my old attic here digging out my Sade vinyl collection by the by.
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You already typed a team of shite with your brain dead point about the gubbermint you still can’t explain.
Think I might have a pea brain alias here.
Think I’d leave your side baby… You know me better than that 
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You break it by incentivising a career, any job and dis incentivising choosing a life on the dole.
How else do you change it?
My point obviously annoyed you enough to produce a #ream
You couldn’t make a point, read back, you said the term gubbermint was ironically a thing, but then are unable to explain what this ‘thing’ is. Bit out of your depth here bro.
But you were saying earlier they did that in america and it hasnt worked?
No, I didn’t say that anywhere, again you are pretending I did. I explained your moronic comparison between Ireland and America. It might take a few hours for that to sink in. Take your time.
Are you looking for those tax certs?
I disagree with you, why all the anger?
Logging off now bud. Easy enough to get sucked in!
Anger, huh? Calm down petal. I asked you to explain your points. You can’t do it. Kinda leaves you open to ridicule when you can’t do that. I think you’d feel a bit safer logged off, so go for it.
Jaysus pea brain I’d say you were sitting there reading that back and forth, drooling, with not the foggiest idea what was being said.
Poverty isn’t simple anywhere, but he is spot on about American poverty. It is true, grinding, homeless poverty.