Harty cup draw.
Only one Limerick side in Ard Scoil. No real form line from 2 years ago due to covid.
With minor now at u17 this is arguably a more important stepping stone on road to county u20.
Group B 
Rochestown won the senior B all Ireland last year so have to go up.
Very unusual to see Youghal up at Harty.
Ah lads
They were Harty for 5-6 years a while back - had a decent crop for a couple of years with Dalton and the Fr. O’Neills lads.
In saying that, I’d say them, A.G. and Roco are making up the numbers and CBC were very poor at Dean Ryan. Midleton have a talented group which means they will do diddly squat.
All down to Fermoy on the Cork side. Adam Walsh and Cillian Tobin are serious hurlers.
Jesus, Tobin is a serious operator. Keeping Walsh fit is the challenge but some paw and skill.
Reminds me of big Joe Coleman who was playing in the Wexford county final last week.
Games gone
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Was at it. Best team won. Adam Daly scored 0-4 and was MOTM. Goal by David McGrath.
Referee Cathal mccalister let it flow well in the first half but in the second half gave 3 soft ones to ASR and cashel couldn’t buy a free. He will be relieved with the result.
Good to see another school in the final, especially against the Ard Scoil combination team.
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How come the Cashel 6 has no club on programme?
He didn’t play club hurling last year as his transfer from rose green to Boherlahen was blocked.
He was brilliant today.
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Team-by-team guide: Who’s who in this season’s TUS Dr Harty Cup
Team-by-team insights on the 21 schools competing for the blue riband of Munster schools hurling, which starts Wednesday
REIGNING CHAMPIONS: Cashel Community School claimed an all-Tipperary Dr Harty Cup in 2022, with joint captains, Ronan Connolly and Ben Currivan lifting the trophy.
TUE, 10 OCT, 2023 - 18:00
IRISH EXAMINER SPORT
GROUP A.
Christian Brothers College, Cork.
Management: Tony Wall, Traolach Martin, Darragh O’Callaghan.
Captain: Peter O’Shea (Erin’s Own).
Last season: Last time out, CBC came up short in the quarter-finals against eventual champions Cashel CS by the narrow margin of a goal.
Key players: Peter O’Shea (Erin’s Own), Conor McCarthy (Glen Rovers), Darragh Browne (Blackrock).
Verdict: CBC have yet to win the Harty Cup but finished runners up in 2019 and 2020 so they know the feeling of competing in the decider. The heart-breaking loss to a quality Cashel side last year will give them the fire in their belly to make sure they don’t experience that sinking feeling again. They’ll be favoured to go far but have a tricky group with Midleton CBS pegged as their biggest hurdle. Their first game is against Doon in Ballygiblin on Wednesday, a difficult first test for the city lads.
Midleton CBS.
Management: Dave Colbert, John Cronin, Tyrone Kennedy, James Forde.
Captain: Daniel Murnane (Carrigtwohill).
Last year: Comprehensively beaten by Thurles CBS at the semi-final stage.
Key players: Daniel Murnane (Carrigtwohill), Ben Walsh (Killeagh), Barry Walsh (Killeagh).
Verdict: Midleton’s Harty class contains nine members of the 2023 Cork minor panel. Five of that nine - Carthaigh Cronin (Midleton), Cillian O’Callaghan (Dungourney), vice-captain Ben Walsh, his namesake Barry, and James O’Leary (Lisgoold) - were Cork minor starters. Will again go deep into the competition.
In 2019, it was CBS Midleton who triumphed, with a final win over Christian Brothers College Cork. Midleton’s Dylan Hogan lifts the Dr. Harty Cup. Pic: ©INPHO/Bryan Keane
Rice College, Ennis.
Management: Pat Devitt, Conor Cleary, Brian Foudy, Eamonn Clohessy.
Captain: Was only being announced to the players today.
Last year: Didn’t compete in the competition.
Key players: John Cahill (Clooney-Quin), Jack O’Neill (Clooney-Quin), Eoin McMahon (St Joseph’s Doora-Barefield).
Verdict: Have a very strong starting 15, with some exceptional players. Jack O’Neill was excellent for the Clare U20s this year (when still U18) while John Cahill was the Clare minor captain last year. In a very tough group but are expected to be very competitive.
Scoil na Tríonóide Naofa, Doon.
Management: Diarmuid McCarthy, Jack Cummins and Diarmuid Carr (S&C).
Captain: TBC.
Last year: This is their first time participating in the Harty Cup since pre-pandemic.
Key players: Donal Coughlan (Doon), Tadhg Hourigan (Pallasgreen), Aidan Moloney (Doon).
Verdict: In Group A with Midleton CBS, Rice College Ennis and Christian Brothers Cork. A decision was made to step up to the top-tier based on the panel of players available. Cappamore, Doon, Pallasgreen, Cappawhite and Murroe Boher are the main contributing clubs. The hope is to advance to the knockout stages.
GROUP B.
St Joseph’s Tulla.
Management: Terrence Fahy, Tomás Kelly, Aidan Harte Captain: Dara Fitzgerald (Sixmilebridge).
Last year: A young side lost to St Colman’s and Middleton by 12 points on both days.
Key players: Emmet Mulcahy (Tulla), Dara Fitzgerald (Sixmilebridge), Dannan Fox (Clooney-Quin).
Verdict: Shaping up like a traditional Tulla team with the usual 4-5 feeder clubs. Had three Clare minor panellists (Seánie Boyce, Darragh White and Emmet Mulcahy) but Boyce is absent at the moment through injury. Don’t have any player on a Clare U20 squad but are older than last year’s group, with more physicality.
TULLA DELIGHT: In 2022, St Josephs Tulla won their first Harty against Ardscoil at the TUS Gaelic Grounds, Limerick. Ronan O’Connor lifts the cup.
Pobalscoil na Tríonóide Youghal.
Management: Brian Looby, Damien Kiely, Martin O’Brien Captain: Fionn Hill (Youghal).
Last year: Failed to emerge from their group.
Key players: Bobby Nicholson (Youghal), Jayden Ó Cathasaigh (Youghal), Sean Meade (Killeagh). Ó Cathasaigh captained the Cork minor this year, while corner-forward Meade also saw game-time for the county’s U17 side.
Verdict: Their average losing margin when going down in all three group games last season was 18 points. Off the back of such sizable defeats, their determination will lie in closing the gap to the established Harty nurseries and attempting to put points on the board this campaign. The opener against Tulla might represent their best chance on the latter front.
St Colman’s Fermoy.
Management: Mossie Barry, Daniel Buckley, Garvan Queeney, Denis Fitzgerald.
Captain: James O’Brien (Fermoy).
Last year: An injury-time goal from Thurles CBS captain Tommy Maher caused quarter-final heartbreak for Colman’s. Having trailed the entire game, Maher’s 61st minute green flag put Thurles in front for the first time.
Key players: James O’Brien (Fermoy), Liam Óg Hegarty (Kilworth), Oisin Fitzgerald (St Catherine’s).
Verdict: Colman’s haven’t reached the semis since 2017. It seems a bit early to be looking that far ahead, but victory on Day One over the team that handed them their exit papers last season would put Fermoy in pole position for top spot in the group and a more navigable route to the last four.
Thurles CBS.
Management: Éamonn Buckley, Patrick McCormack, Paul Downey.
Captain: TBC.
Last year: Runners-up, beaten by a point in the final by Cashel CS.
Three to watch: Pádraig O’Dwyer (Killenaule), Evan Morris, Robbie Ryan (Holycross-Ballycahill).
Verdict: A big turnover of players from last season’s finalists (three starters remain) so Thurles will learn plenty about this year’s batch from their opening test against St Colman’s. They eliminated the Fermoy school last year but this crop lost to them at Dean Ryan level. Backboned by Holycross-Ballycahill’s county U19 champions and U17 finalists.
GROUP C.
St Flannan’s College.
Management: Michael Donnellan, Jamesie O’Connor, Tony Kelly, Jack Browne.
Captain: Frankie Meaney (St Joseph’s Doora-Barefield).
Last year: Lost to Cashel (by one point) and Ardscoil Rís (by two points) in the group.
Key players: James Hegarty (Inagh-Kilnamona), Luca Cleary (Eire Óg), Ian Williams (St Joseph’s Doora-Barefield).
Verdict: Since winning the title in 2020 (there was no championship in 2021), St Flannan’s have been very competitive but have lost their last four games in the competition by an aggregate of just 0-6. Have a very talented but young squad, with ten players on board from the Clare All-Ireland minor winning squad. First game against Ardscoil will be critical to their progress.
Ardscoil Rís.
Management: Liam Cronin, Derek Larkin, Paul Flanagan and Damien Gillane.
Captain: Joint – Sean McNamara (Smith O’Briens) and Fintan Fitzgerald (Mungret St Paul’s) Last year: Beaten in the semi-final by Cashel CS, who went on to win the title.
Key players: Fintan Fitzgerald (Mungret), Diarmuid Stritch (Clonlara) and they have eight of the All-Ireland winning Clare minor panel.
Verdict: They take on St Flannan’s, DLS Waterford and Coláiste Choilm Ballincollig in Group C. They are one of four seeded teams having reached the semi-final in 2022, and the expectation is the five-time Harty Cup winners will at the business end. Their most recent success was in 2018. They were All-Ireland champions two seasons ago.
Coláiste Choilm, Ballincollig.
Management: Dave Bowen, Decky Hyland and John Dwyer (schools coach).
Captain: Being announced Wednesday.
Last season: First time in the Harty Cup.
Key players: Sean O’Neill (Ballincollig), Brian Dore (Ballincollig), Johnny Galvin (Eire Og).
Verdict: Drawing players from the Ballincollig, Inniscarra and Éire Óg primarily, Coláiste Choilm take their first steps in the Harty Cup. It could be a testing campaign, despite the presence of David O’Leary, Johnny Galvin and Niall Buckley, Cork minors this year, and recent successes at B level. Longer term it’s a positive move for the large school and the surrounding clubs.
De La Salle Waterford.
Management: Dermot Dooley, Jonathan Ó Mórdha, Páidí Nevin.
Joint-captains: Aaron O’Neill (Ballygunner) and Callum Carroll (Roanmore).
Last year: Quarter-finalists, eliminated by two late Midleton CBS goals.
Key players: Scott Fleming, Conor Tobin, Colm Hartley (Ballygunner).
Verdict: A heavy-hitting group draw with Ardscoil Rís and St Flannan’s but the sole Waterford representatives have retained 14 players who saw Harty game-time last year. Could go a long way if they can escape the ‘Group of Death’.
GROUP D.
Charleville CBS.
Management: James Riordan, Kevin Butler and Donal Mulcahy.
Captain: Bill Collins (Newtownshandrum) Last year: This is their first time returning to the Harty Cup since 2017.
Key players: Sean Bresnan (Charleville), Joseph Hickey (Ballyhea) and Chris Dunne (Dromina).
Verdict: In Group D with Nenagh CBS and Hamilton HS Bandon. Their main feeder schools are Ballyhea, Newtownshandrum and Charleville. They lost the semi-final of the ‘B’ championship last year. Felt they have the squad to compete this year, and the aim is to qualify from the group.
Nenagh CBS.
Management: Donach O’Donnell, Jack Peters, Miriam Campion, Mark Gennery.
Captain: Darragh McCarthy (Toomevara).
Last year: Knocked out of the group stage by a last-minute De La Salle goal.
Key players: Ciarán Foley (Borrisokane), Cian Connolly (Nenagh Éire Óg), Andy Houlihan (Moneygall).
Verdict: Strong in defence and attack, and captained by Darragh McCarthy who scored 2-35 for Toomevara in their Tipp SHC run. With the experience gained from last year’s unlucky group exit, they will be favoured to get a run at the knockout stages this time.
Hamilton HS Bandon.
Management: Tiernan O’Driscoll, Paddy Lordan.
Captain: TBC.
Last year: Competed at ‘B’ Level.
Key players: Michéal Maguire (Courcey Rovers), Kevin Darte O’Flynn (Valley Rovers), Sean Aherne (Bandon).
Verdict: Having won the Munster B title in February, the Hammies will be going into Harty with a ton of confidence but their footballing commitments for Corn Ui Mhuiri could hinder their progress with a whole host of dual players. Part of a three-team group with Charleville and mainstays Nenagh, Bandon will have their work cut out for them but they’ll fancy themselves after beating Charleville in last year’s B Grade semi-final.
GROUP E.
Castletroy College.
Management: Liam Reale and Muiris Gilbourne (selectors) Sean Herbert, Mark Keane (coaches), Darragh Droog (S&C).
Captain: Dara Ferland (Monaleen) Last season: Lost the ‘B’ final in extra time by a point to Hamilton HS, Bandon.
Key players: Matthew Fitzgerald (Monaleen), Robert O’Farrell (Kildimo Pallaskenry), Tom McCarthy (Monaleen).
Verdict: The Limerick school will have learned an awful lot from last year’s journey at ‘B’ level. Their key players were all on the Limerick minor panel of 2023, as was Cian Scully while Mark Field was part of the crop of 2022. They mainly draw from Monaleen and Ahane and finding themselves in a three-team group lacking any of the traditional big guns, they have as much as a chance of anyone of making it out.
John the Baptist CS, Hospital.
Management: Mark Deegan, Michael Martin, Ivor McCaffrey, Patrick Stack.
Captain: Owen Meany (Bruff).
Last year: Competed at ‘B’ Level.
Key players: Michael Leo (Knockainey), Shane Ryan (Garyspillane), Sean Casey (Bruff).
Verdict: Much like Castletroy, John the Baptist have a realistic chance of progressing form the three-team group. Drawing from the Bohermore, Bruff, Caherline, Emly, Garryspillane, Hospital Herbertstown, Knockainey, Pallasgreen and Staker Wallace clubs, they have previous experience at this level having reached the quarterfinals in 2018 and 2019 and won the All-Ireland ‘B’ colleges title in 2017.
CBS Carrick-on-Suir.
Management: PJ Fahey and Jack Doyle.
Captain: Eoin Reid (Piltown).
Last year: Senior B quarter-finalists, knocked out in extra-time by All-Ireland finalists Hamilton HS.
Key players: Aaron O’Halloran (Carrick Swan), David Comerford (St Molleran’s), Niall O’Brien (Piltown).
Verdict: With players from Tipperary, Waterford, and Kilkenny’s minor panels, the Harty Cup novices have been inspired to have a go by Tulla and Cashel’s breakthroughs. In a novel group of newcomers with Hospital and Castletroy, the knockout stages are a real possibility.
GROUP F.
Cashel Community Sschool.
Management: Brendan Ryan, Anthony Roche, Robbie Costigan.
Joint-captains: Oisín O’Donoghue (Cashel King Cormacs) and Shane Buckley (Knockavilla Kickhams).
Last year: Harty Cup champions for the first time in a historic all-Tipperary final.
Key players: Adam Daly (Knockavilla Kickhams), Dylan Fogarty (Boherlahan-Dualla), Ciarán Byrne (Golden-Kilfeacle).
Verdict: Fairytale winners last year, now comes the challenge of a title defence. They have six starters still in place, the five named above plus keeper Tommy Breen, but have less depth than before. Solidifying the school’s status as regular Harty competitors and challengers is the aim.
Our Lady’s, Templemore.
Management: Brian Carroll, Joe Gallagher, Peter O’Rourke.
Captain: Jamie Ormond (JK Brackens).
Last year: Quarter-finalists, knocked out by Ardscoil Rís.
Key players: Tom Corcoran (JK Brackens), Conor Gleeson, Eoghan Kennedy (Drom-Inch).
Verdict: Jamie Ormond was Our Lady’s top-scorer last year and he will lead their charge again as captain. Injuries have taken the wind out of their sails, though, with full-back Conor Gleeson ruled out for the group stages. Matching last year’s quarter-final appearance would represent success.
Gaelcholáiste Mhuire AG, Cork.
Management: Tadhg Óg Murphy, Tomás Manning, Éanna Desmond, Stephen Higgins, Seán Óg Ó hAilpín, Garry Gray.
Captain: Ross Ó Súilleabháin Last year: Eliminated in group stage.
Key players: Jamie Ó hÉigartaigh (Whitechurch), Ciarán Mac Uidhir (Glen Rovers), Cormac Ó Neill (St Vincent’s) Verdict: The AG face into a tough group with last year’s champions, Cashel CS and 2017 winners, Templemore. This young team is spearheaded by recent U20 All-Ireland winner Ross Ó Súilleabháin, and their traditional pool of talent is now fortified by an influx of players from Whitechurch and Blarney. The school has strong U15, U16 and U17 teams who will look to build for the coming years and turn the tide for hurling in the city.
*Guides by Eoghan Cormican, Stephen Barry, Christy O’Connor, John Coleman, Therese O’Callaghan and Darragh Leen.
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By god.
We’re educating them sure. And Flannan’s have another ten of 'em.
Bumped into a friend the other week. Was saying his son (mentioned in the preview) is all set for Coleman’s. But his club need him too as they’re now in a county final. Tough on the young fellas and small clubs in general.
No problem with young lads playing twice a week, it’s the over training on the pitch and in the gym that burns young lads out.
His auld boy was saying he and his buddies are constantly in the gym.
A typically terrible day for the first day of the Harty cup.
Based on the Dean ryan cup of two years previous, Coleman’s, Midleton, Flannans and Ard Scoil Will be close. Cashel and thurles both down key players from last year.
Huge amount of schools playing Harty after looking at the Tulla/Cashel template. Hopefully they avoid hammerings.
The gym can be fine but only if it’s monitored to coincide with games. The problem is county managers looking at these months as bulking months which is far from ideal in the midst of school and club games.
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An absolutely brilliant competition. Fair play to the Examiner for the excellent coverage.
The Leinster hurling equivalent doesn’t get a fraction of the coverage.
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