[QUOTE=âMark Renton, post: 933152, member: 1796â]@Horsebox this is working for now :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tw6Dkyh5oNc
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Cheers, pal. I found it on youtube last night when I got in from a few pints but turned it off after 15 minutes-it was a bit too emotional at that time of night and I didnât want to be brought down from the incredible high I was on.
What were you emotional about you stupid prick? This tragedy had fuckall to do with you or any other oirish liverpool supporting twot. Trying to make out hillsborough has some sort of emotional effect on your life you sickening cunt.
Says the man that was bawling in Manchester airport last night⌠Go back and enjoy your bacon and cabbage, pal⌠Youâll be back in tan land in no time eating curry.
[QUOTE=âMark Renton, post: 933272, member: 1796â]Watch it asap, pal.
http://film.lfc.vn/espn-30-for-30-hillsborough/#more-57[/QUOTE]
Got 15 mins in, it crashed and is gone again :mad:
Seems to be working here:
http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/172435/Hillsborough__30_for_30_Soccer_Stories__ESPN_Films/
Anothet cunt here. Trying to latch onto something terrible that had fuckall to do with you in order to try and show what a great Liverpool âsupporterâ you are. The only thing you had in common with those poor people was your replica jersey your mother bought you in quinnsworth ( or robbed in the crescent you limerick knack) you sickening prick. Fuck off and dont wasting my time you piece of shit.
Watched it all now. Fairly powerful stuff.
Any working links for the documentary now?
why did Liverpool fans sing 2-0 to the murderers a few years back?
scum utter utter scum
Merseyside vitriol: Oliver Kay responds
It seems like I opened a can of words with a piece yesterday about certain things that were chanted at the Merseyside derby at Goodison Park. Some have accused me of failing to understand the context in which â2-0 to the Murderersâ was sung by a number of Liverpool supporters, so here goesâŚ
Sorry to disappoint you, but I do fully understand the context. Iâm not exactly a novice when it comes to Merseyside football. But, from where Iâm sitting, that context â Everton and Manchester United supporters gleefully chanting âmurderersâ for years without, it seems, the slightest clue about what happened at Heysel in 1985 â does not excuse what was sung. It doesnât make the chant funny, clever or brilliant, as some seem to think. The chant sucks, as do the ones that provoked it in the first place.
Some considered it genius because it silenced the Everton taunts (âYou should have seen their faces âŚâ) and because it meant that Liverpool fans have âreclaimedâ â or at least taken ownership of â the âmurderersâ tag, much like the gay community has with the word âqueerâ or the black community has with the word âniggerâ. Some have likened it to Tottenhamâs âyidâ chants or Robbie Fowlerâs âreclaimingâ of the drug-abuse rumours back in 1999 with his infamous cocaine-snorting celebration. I take the point. I just donât agree with it.
The difference here is that we are talking about a disaster in which 39 people died. And yes I know it was a disaster that could have unfolded at just about any European match involving just about any English club over a period from the mid-1970s to the mid-1980s and that it took a particular set of circumstances â not least inadequate security arrangements and a crumbling abomination of a stadium, which Uefa should never forgive themselves for selecting â for it to happen when it did. Believe me, I know all that and I have frequently found myself trying to explain these things to people who think they know better.
I also know that a disturbing large proportion of Everton and United supporters take undue pleasure in singing about Heysel in order to score points. I just did not really think that Liverpool fans, of all fans, would try to score points by turning the tables and singing it back in a way that made a joke (whether you like it or not) of a disaster that claimed the lives of 39 innocent football supporters.
Someone called my reaction âfake moral outrageâ. Thereâs nothing fake about it and I wasnât outraged, just surprised and, yes, disappointed. I could have chosen to ignore the atmosphere on Saturday and particularly the â2-0 to the Murderersâ chant, but I felt and still feel very strongly about it - just as I do the United fans whom I have condemned in the past for chanting despicable things about Hillsborough and for making light of their own disaster in the interests of point-scoring. I have often wondered what Sir Bobby Charlton thinks when he hears United fans at Anfield asking âWhereâs your famous Munich song?â
It just comes down to what you find acceptable. I donât find the "murderersâ chant acceptable.I donât find âWithout killing anyone, weâve won it three timesâ acceptable (and that, unlikely as it may sound, was actually sung by the United players on the pitch at the Luzhniki Stadium in Moscow in May). I donât find âWhereâs your famous Munich song?â acceptable. I donât find â2-0 to the Murderersâ acceptable. I donât find chants about Michael Shields or Harold Shipman acceptable. I find the chants about Steven Gerrardâs family utterly despicable, as I do the Evertonian âjokeâ of covering your face with your hand as if to signify someone being crushed at Hillsborough. I actually feel sickened as I write this.
Maybe all of this makes me someone who has spent so long in the press box that he has lost touch with the tribal nature of footballâs rivalries. Maybe, but I donât think so. Maybe it is also possible to get so wound up in that tribal warfare that you lose sight of where the boundaries of taste lie. Some will not care, but, for me, the â2-0 to the Murderers chantâ was a long way over that boundary. I know full well what the explanation is. I just donât think that it constitutes any kind of excuse.
Ding ding- Round 2. Justice forâŚ
[SIZE=6]Hillsborough Wikipedia posts: Government launches inquiry after insults aimed at Liverpool fans traced to Government computers in Whitehall [/SIZE]
The Government has launched an inquiry into revelations that derogatory comments were inserted into Wikipedia entries about the Hillsborough disaster from computers in several Whitehall departments.
âBlame Liverpool fansâ was written on the main webpage about the tragedy, in which 96 people were crushed to death in a crowd during the FA Cup semi-final game between Liverpool and Nottingham Forest in 1989.
âNothing for the victims of the Heysel stadium disasterâ â the deaths of 39 people in a crush during a Liverpool-Juventus game in 1985 â was written into a passage about the Hillsborough memorial at Liverpool FCâs stadium, while âThis is Anfieldâ was changed to âThis is a Shitholeâ.
And the name of Liverpool FCâs adopted anthem, âYouâll Never Walk Aloneâ, was changed to âYouâll Never Walk Againâ .
The Liverpool Echo newspaper reported that it had linked the comments, made between 2009 and 2012, to IP addresses of computers in Whitehall departments, including the Department for Culture, Media and Sport, the Treasury and the Office of the Solicitor General.
In a statement, the Cabinet Office said: âWe thank the Liverpool Echo for bringing this to our attention. This is a matter that we will treat with the utmost seriousness and are making urgent inquiries.
âNo one should be in any doubt of the Governmentâs position regarding the Hillsborough disaster and its support for the families of the 96 victims and all those affected by the tragedy.â
Kenny Derbyshire, who was present at the game and chairs the Hillsborough Justice Campaign, said the comments were âtotally disgustingâ.
âI find it very hard to believe that someone could do something like that. There are some very sick people out there,â he said. âThis needs looking into very seriously. Whoever is involved in this should be named and shamed at least. Itâs wrong and upsetting for the families.
Mr Derbyshire said if the comments were made by civil servants, then they should face losing their jobs. Margaret Aspinall, of the Hillsborough Family Support Group, told the Echo: âI donât even know how to react, itâs just so sad. I hear something like that and it upsets me a great deal, it makes me incredibly sad.â
Wikipedia lists individual edits and each is tagged to the author. They can choose a user name or remain anonymous, but the IP address can still be traced.
The Echo established that the IP addresses linked to the insulting comments were ones previously identified as unique IP addresses for the Government Secure Intranet. However this network covers thousands of computers and further investigations by IT experts would be needed to narrow this down.
An inquest is taking place into the causes of the disaster at Sheffield Wednesdayâs stadium. In addition to the deaths, 776 people were injured.
They also changed that famous Shankly quote âhe made the people happyâ to âhe made a wonderful lemon drizzle cake.â
Edit: Not having a go at Shankly, he was a gent and one of footballs good guys.
Justice for Teege.
Fair play, only took the cunts 27 years. I imagine the United fans will have another song done up by the weekend.
Murderers