Hillsborough

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/mar/15/hillsborough-disaster-survivors

Some stories in there. Harrowing stuff.

I remember watching that dramatisation of it a few years ago, the one with Christopher Eccleston. I was bawling all night afterwards.

(Just googled it there. 1996 it was shown, amazing.)

Yeah I have the Jimmy McGovern documentary on video, might look to get it copied onto a DVD or something. Itā€™s gritty stuff.

Although Iā€™d say Channel 4 will repeat it at some stage over the next month or so.

The findings of the inquiry are to be released in the next half hour or soā€¦

Guardian livefeed -

'Word just in from our Liverpool-based football reporter Andy Hunter who has just sent me a quick note:

Been told the families have just given the panel a standing ovation after what they heard.

A home office spokesman has said its ā€œmassiveā€ whatā€™s about to come out.ā€™

It seems that all avenues were exhausted trying to blame the supporters, as blood was taken from victims without knowledge to test for alcohol, and if no alcohol was found then a search for criminal a record was done.

Choco only one paramedic was let in also.he wasnā€™t even interviewed by the cop or the courts.i think he said that there was a good few of them outside the grounds not let in.he did say a lot of lifeā€™s could have been saved.cover up from the cops big time even if some fans didnā€™t have tickets.

It seems it is all about to be disclosed anyway. Delighted that cunt Thatcher is still around to hear it too, the cunt bag.

I assume they still boycott the Sun in Liverpool? Is it actually stocked on merseyside at all?

Still boycotted. I think the odd newsagent gets it in small quantities alright.

Just read the link at the top. f**king hellā€¦

Can Scouse victimhood be put to bed if they get what they want out of today? For that alone its nearly worth saying anything other than mindless idiots without tickets were as much to blame as the cops.

A bit over the top there SO. Yeah, idiots without tickets were as much to blame, but lives could have been saved if the plods did their jobā€¦

So not over the top at all then is what youā€™re really saying?

plods??

All the families have ever asked for is the truth. This report shows that they were correct in believing it was withheld from them all this time. The institutional corruption of the British Police Service (and as importantly their utter contempt for the truth) being brought to light is an indisputably positive development.

:rolleyes:

You are obviously ignorant of the factsā€¦

Switch off your deluded sense of loyalty to a ā€˜rivalā€™ english based plc for a minute and repost.

Any occasion, including Hysel, where fans set off to go to a sporting event and dont make it home is an absolute tragedy.

plods = pc plod = police

cheers

Police and emergency services in England made ā€œstrenuous attemptsā€ to deflect the blame for the Hillsborough disaster onto innocent fans, newly published documents about the tragedy revealed today.

The disclosures were made by the Hillsborough Independent Panel, which has been overseeing the release of thousands of official documents relating to Britainā€™s deadliest sporting disaster.

Ninety-six Liverpool supporters died in a crush at Sheffield Wednesdayā€™s Hillsborough stadium on April 15, 1989, where their team were to meet Nottingham Forest in an FA Cup semi-final.

Introducing the report to the Hillsborough families at the Anglican Cathedral in Liverpool, Bishop James Jones, the Bishop of Liverpool and chairman of the panel, said: ā€œFor nearly a quarter of a century the families of the 96 and the survivors of Hillsborough have nursed an open wound waiting for answers to unresolved questions.

ā€œIt has been a frustrating and painful experience adding to their grief.

ā€œIn spite of all the investigations they have sensed that their search for truth and justice has been thwarted and that no-one has been held accountable.

ā€œThe documents disclosed to and analysed by the panel show that the tragedy should never have happened.

ā€œThere were clear operational failures in response to the disaster and in its aftermath their were strenuous attempts to deflect the blame onto the fans.

ā€œThe panelā€™s detailed report shows how vulnerable victims, survivors and their families are when transparency and accountability are compromised.

ā€œMy colleagues and I were from the start of our work impressed by the dignified determination of the families.ā€

He added: ā€œThe panel produces this report without any presumption of where it will lead. But it does so in the profound hope that greater transparency will bring to the families and to the wider public a greater understanding of the tragedy and its aftermath.

ā€œFor it is only with this transparency that the families and survivors, who have behaved with such dignity, can with some sense of truth and justice cherish the memory of their 96 loved ones.ā€

In its summary the panel said: "It is evident from analysis of the various investigations that from the outset South Yorkshire Police sought to deflect responsibility for the disaster on to Liverpool fans ā€¦ there is no evidence to support this view.ā€™ā€™

The documents also reveal the ā€œextent to which substantive amendments were madeā€ to statements by South Yorkshire Police to remove or alter ā€œunfavourableā€ comments about the policing of the match and the unfolding disaster.

The documents show, for the first time, that South Yorkshire Ambulance Service documents were ā€œsubject to the same processā€, the panel said.

They went on to say the wrongful allegations about the fansā€™ behaviour later printed in some newspapers, particularly The Sun, originated from ā€œa Sheffield press agency, senior SYP officers, an SYP Police Federation spokesperson and a local MPā€.

The panel said the Police Federation, ā€œsupported informally by the SYP Chief Constableā€, sought to develop and publicise a version of events derived in police officersā€™ allegations of drunkenness, ticketless fans and violence.

ā€œThe vast majority of fans on the pitch assisted in rescuing and evaluating the injured and the dead,ā€ the panel said.

The panel said their report raises ā€œprofound concerns about the conduct and appropriateness of the inquestsā€.

The documents go on to reveal the original pathologistsā€™ evidence of a single, unvarying pattern of death was ā€œunsustainableā€, the panel said.

The families have always disputed the accidental verdict which followed the inquest into the deaths.

The report found that 116 of the 164 police statements identified for "substantive amendmentā€™ā€™ were "amended to remove or alter comments unfavourable to SYP.ā€™ā€™

One police officer said he only accepted the changes because he was suffering from post-traumatic stress and that he considered it an injustice for statements to have been ā€œdoctoredā€ to suit the management of South Yorkshire Police, the report found.

The panel also found that access to Cabinet documents revealed that in an exchange about her Government welcoming the Taylor Report into the tragedy Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher expressed her concern that the ā€œbroad thrustā€ of the report constituted a ā€œdevastating criticism of the policeā€.

From the Examiner

karmaā€™s a bitch isnā€™t it

No, idiots without tickets were not to blame.

Britain is great really. Great at giving you the truth about 25 years later.

Truth and justice arenā€™t the same thing by the way. The verdict of the original inquiry still stands in law.