Uncle Tom quislings and the black protestants of a few enclaves in the north east have always been the greatest impediment. At the end if the day, you’re a yank who’s lived in Dublin. You know nothing about the mind of real Irish people and how we see the world.
Not in my name.
The PIRA butchered Catholic and Protestant civilians en masse as they were blood thirsty scumbags. They later went into paedophilla and drug dealing. If you chant “Up the Ra” and start talking about “the Brits” as your excuse, you are as bad as them.
They represent maybe 30% currently. Middle class Protestants who could be convinced are the ones you should be trying to convince.
Instead you choose to celebrate scum of the earth. Well for you.
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Paddy the Pretend IRA England haters will be obsessing over their English soccer club of choice again tomorrow.
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All a big laugh to them. The same ones who’ll claim to be ardent republicans yet do the most damage of all.
Best thing for someone like Jamie Bryson now is the simple Irishman down south who yells about the Brits and chants about the Ra.
This is a great article and so relevant to this discussion. It drips with empathy. Irish people need to read this stuff because it’s their history.
Centrist my arse, he was a PD.
Make up your mind.
He was a chef, legitimate military target!
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Two wrongs don’t make a right
Always have been. Always will be.
You’re spot on, mate.
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Those who believe in the Disney version of the PIRA should watch this. The PIRA’s Tommy Gorman breaks down in regret.
You’re missing the point. One isn’t seen as a wrong at all by almost anyone. The same fella demanding education and apologies one week for an unthinking slogan as part of a song that has nothing to do with the IRA will be wearing a poppy in actual deliberate clear support of the British army. Who even Tim seems to admit are just as bad. It’s actually unbelievable when you think about it 
I don’t support either; why is my disgust at one couched in the other?
I don’t agree or care about what the SSN lad said or what the Brits think. I think its wrong to chant a supportive message for an organisation that murdered innocent people.
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Think SF need a chance anyway
Told Danny Morrison openly on Twitter -
If SF don’t deliver and fuck up
They’ll be consigned to the political dustbin down here with the PDs and Labour etc
Every fabric of Irish society celebrates the IRA.
The GAA, street names, our political parties…
Yes you and Tim don’t agree with singing it and I don’t think I do either on mature reflection. That’s our opinion though. A load of people in Britain don’t agree with glorifying empire and there is often a healthy debate about the likes of Rule Britannia as it’s obviously not black and white, good and evil. Nobody has ever had to apologise or self flagellate themselves for a week over it though.
The ‘RA’ like the British empire is not some completely evil organisation like the sith in star wars or something. It did good and bad undoubtedly and how weighted that is to good or bad probably depends on your lived experience or where you grew up or how you were brought up.
The double standard is just very very interesting and not one I had actually thought about before this week.
My old fella was great pals with the top man in the IRA in the 80s, we had a few visits from the special branch, he was a lovely fella, my da had no time for his politics etc but he came from that background and it was understood.
Good people do bad things in the name of nationalism etc, but they’re still bad things