Donât let facts put you off making an argument anyway, FFS sake 
Enda and FG saved this country, huzzah.
[QUOTE=âTheUlteriorMotive, post: 942096, member: 2272â]He created the environment. He didnât introduce a penal third rate of tax, for example.
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The guy who constantly attacks spending money on the social welfare system is against a third tax rate for high earners. At least youâre consistent.
[B]Sinn Feinâs Tax Proposals reflect how they donât yet do joined up handwriting
Income tax[/B]
» Introduce new 3rd rate of tax of 48% on income earned in excess of
âŹ100,000: Raises âŹ365 million
DIscRetIonaRy taxes
» Re-introduce the Non-Principal Private Residence charge and
charge it at âŹ400: Raises âŹ151 million
» Increase DIRT by 3% to 36%: Raises âŹ46 million
» Increase once-off charge for establishing a discretionary trust by
1% (currently 6%) and the annual charge from 1% to 1.5%: Raises âŹ0.5
million
» Enact the taxation provisions of the Betting Bill and apply
3% to online bets and 15% gross profit tax for remote betting
intermediaries and extend an additional 2% to the betting shop tax,
bringing it to 3%: Raises âŹ114 million
Wealth taxes
» Increase CGT to 40%: Raises âŹ98 million
» Increase CAT to 40% and lower thresholds: Raises âŹ108 million
» Introduce 1% wealth tax on net wealth in excess of âŹ1 million with
exclusions as defined in our legislation (see wealth tax section)
PensIons
» Reduce the earnings cap for pension contributions from âŹ115,000
per annum to âŹ70,000 per annum: Raises âŹ130 million
» Increase tax take from super pensions by raising imputed
distributed percentage (ARFS): Raises âŹ25 million
PRsI & Usc
» Introduce a new employersâ rate of PRSI of 15.75% on the portion of
salary paid in excess of âŹ100,000 per annum: Raises âŹ119.1 million
tax RelIefs & tax evasIon
» Standardise pension tax reliefs: Raises âŹ343 million
» Increase Revenue Commissioner activity to target tax evasion:
Raises âŹ100 million
» Standardise investment in film relief (âŹ33.6 million) and rented
residential relief under Section 23 (âŹ11.7 million): Raises âŹ45.3
million
» Reduce mortgage interest deductions against rent for landlords
from 75% to 40%: Raises âŹ157 million
excIse DUty & vat
» Increase excise duty on packet of cigarettes by 20 cent: Raises
âŹ35.8 million
Yes - reward work and risk taking.
If you tax work too highly people just wonât declare it or will do less work.
at the edges you would cost people money - why earn an extra 100 euro when you keep maybe 30 of it and miss out on couple of hours with your family. Time cost becomes not worth it. People will still earn money but if you have a business why expand if most of what you might earn if it takes off is taken by government
You also wonât attract Google, Facebook, Twitter etc because their senior people wonât pay tax at 70% on income or on their share options. So you lose all of that income tax because they will locate elsewhere.
[QUOTE=âTheUlteriorMotive, post: 942103, member: 2272â]Yes - reward work and risk taking.
If you tax work too highly people just wonât declare it or will do less work. You also wonât attract Google, Facebook, Twitter etc because their senior people wonât pay tax at 70% on income or on their share options. So you lose all of that income tax because they will locate elsewhere.[/QUOTE]
You basically espouse and parrot the type of economic policies that have led to the economic crisis in the first place, here and internationally.
Agreed⊠but we are too small and reliant on other economies to have any influence over international economic strategy.
Find out which way the wind is blowing, throw up your sail and hope for the best.
We are not queuing for food in shops that have no food to sell. that is the way communism lies
I am not actually. Crisis here was caused by giveaway economics by Fianna Fail (although the rest cheerleaded it and called for more and more) fuelled by a stamp duty bubble. Public sector wages chased property prices in a vicious circle. Banks loaned money in a reckless fashion.
None of that is my economics. Reward hard work and risk. Protect the elderly, the young and sick. Encourage access to education by making it free. Get rid of crap courses that are a cottage industry.
You achieve all that by not punishing people who make money from working and not doling it out to lifestyle dossers who never worked a day in their lives and game the system.
From an economic stand point I think Fine Gael have done a decent job all be it in largely following what was set out for them.
From an accountability point of view vs FF theyâve been at least the same if not worse. Backing Shatter to the hilt being the latest in a long line.
From a corruption point of view I think whats happened in the Irish Water contracts could be up there with the ESAT license debacle.
Labour have been a disgrace to their principles in no way standing up for or defending the working class.
Whatever about in the past, for the last 50+ years of the state Fianna Fail & Fine Gael are exactly the same thing and have occupied every government the state has ever had. A change is badly needed, I donât give a fuck if they try to turn the place communist, we just need a change.
@glasagusban - I would much prefer if we got a chance to try your ideas and then if they donât work try my ideas with proper political divide
What we get in Ireland because of PR is a rush to populist centre
Some of the most right wing ministers we have had in Ireland have been Labour - Ruairi Quinn comes to mind
[QUOTE=âKinvaraâs Passion, post: 942107, member: 686â]Agreed⊠but we are too small and reliant on other economies to have any influence over international economic strategy.
Find out which way the wind is blowing, throw up your sail and hope for the best.[/QUOTE]
Weâve seen that the developed countries that have the lowest income inequality have been the least affected by the economic crisis. Pretty much untouched by it even.
TUM I partially agree and partially completely disagree with your post above. I donât see much difference between what you have up there and the dominant Western ethos of economics of the last 30 years that has led to a global economic crisis however.
What was Shatterâs excellent legislative agenda again? Didnât he throw his toys out of the pram having written a letter to the Bar in his guise as a solicitor saying he felt equipped to perform the work of a barrister, wanted to be referred to as Senior Counsel in court and planned to charge fees accordingly?
They replied stating he was more than welcome to apply for the Bar if he ultimately wanted to be a barrister and he didnât take kindly to this apparently and went after their fees.
I think he targeted all areas except Family Law. As an aside, I understand his own practice specialises in Family Law.
@artfoley, is there an element of truth to the above or is it pure guff?
Let them eat cake.
High taxes are evil. Taxes should be as low as possible because the man in the street will spend his money more effectively than the Government. And then the Government will get more money from VAT etc. Some public spending is of course necessary to support society but public expenditure should never be a black hole. Do you really want to trust a bunch of joke politicians with your money?
Itâs a widely believed fact.
That was quick.
This page is still on the FG website.
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How many of the upcoming election candidates are from the parish ?
McDonagh and OâToole - anyone else ?
Former Justice Minister Sean Dohertyâs daughter Rachel, flying the flag again in North Roscommon.
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Another hereditary seat. This fuckingcountry makes the British aristocracy look democratic.
At least the aristocracy would be educated, we elect buffoon after buffoon who pride themselves on their ignorance.