Ireland politics (Part 1)

Vards will win and we will have a general election by October and FF will be back in power before Christmas.

Neither Leo or Simon are strong enough to lead the country… Burton would have been a different animal and if Enda really cared for the party he would have given him more of a public profile over the last few months. Instead we are left with two weak/unproven candidates who will pull the house down.

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Stop following me around you weird cunt.

Coveney is more popular with both general voters and Fine Gael members. So quite clearly he has a better chance of holding Fine Gael’s soft vote.

Fine Gael will not remain the largest party by alienating floating voters which you need to be the largest party. This is basic stuff.

Kenny got the most seats at a time when Fianna Fail were toxic and at their lowest point ever historically. FF are no longer toxic. If you’re arguing that Varadkar will do same as Kenny despite also being unpopular, well, good luck with that.

I appreciate it’s only a poll but now that FF are no longer toxic and they don’t carry the burden of being in government why are FG polling higher than their recent election result?

It’s nearly as bad as the US presidential election. Another pair of unlikable cunts.

I hope Coventry gets in. The thoughts of a queer as Taoiseach doesn’t sit well. So do us all a favour Leo and go away and get a job in a gay bar for yourself and leave the politics to normal people.

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Coveney is still available at 7/1. The tortoise and the hare and all that.

The reason that FF are no longer toxic is directly as a result of Kenny. FG had a once in a lifetime chance to wipeout FF and instead they face electoral wipeout again.

Enda nostalgia.

They’ll get a short-term bounce from a new leader too, so expect FG to lead all polls until the end of the summer at least.

FF have led the vast majority of polls sine the election though and that’s how I expect it will end up. I’d trust Martin to run a better election campaign than Varadkar.

As a non FF/FG voter, I’d prefer Martin to Varadkar as Taoiseach. I wouldn’t really care either way between Martin and Coveney.

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How many seats would you expect them to get were there to be an election in, say, November 2017?

Varadkers comment about only looking after people who get up early in the morning could come back to haunt him…particularly with older FG members.

Thats not something any previous Irish Taoiseach would ever say publicly.

His capital spending than was essentially dreamland stuff…M20 motorway…complete spoof.

Hard to say, still more to come out of templemore, universities, ODCE etc. If coveney or Leo don’t get rid of o’sullivan then they’re gonna bring FG down further.

Varadkar will find it tough to disassociate himself from the Garda shenanigans given his supportive comments towards O’Sullivan.

Fianna Fail will savage him on this if O’Sullivan is still in position and they’ll likely savage him on it anyway even if she isn’t. They just need to keep Niall Collins out of the spotlight on the issue.

The Apple case would also rear its head were there to be any campaign in the near future and that’s something Sinn Fein and the left can attack both Fine Gael and Fianna Fail on.

There will be no FG/Labour transfer pact next time which will depress the FG vote that little bit further.

I don’t realistically see FG going below an average of one seat per constituency.

Not sure I’d agree with you about labour and fg. They are basically the same party now

Labour will be finished when Murphy & co are acquited

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Hopefully

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Labour are done,

They betrayed their core voters.

Gilmore was a disaster as their leader.

Again you’re conflating “who do you prefer?” with disliking. That’s not the question.

Again, FG have to win a few % more to secure being the largest party.

They are not going to win working class voters or Champagne Socialists.

There are hundreds of thousands paying high personal tax in this country in the middle income bracket who are turned off by the likes of Sinn Féin saying we should keep the USC. I doubt we’d hear you say that’s alienating voters, as it’s a policy you like.

He is looking to win floating voters (and win back) via a larger Cap Ex programme for the country and tax cuts. That’s it really.

Labour are already finished. They’ll be swallowed up by Sinn Fein in the next ten years

A SBP/Red C poll today has Varadkar ahead of Coveney with both the wider electorate and the FG membership. Are we saying that Coveney is disliked now?

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