You seem not have a clue about anything you said. Are you langers?
Youâre crying that Nigeria was singled out - it was the top country on the list⌠How do you have a conversation around the topic without singling out the top country ? - yourself and @Lazarus are wetting the bed here
Yes how can you have a conversation about something you admitted wasnât on your radar?
You asked a question about the veracity of a story about huge swathes of cash moving offshore. The definition of racism needs to be updated.
Oughterard man?
You cant ask anything here that doesnt suit certain agendas â youâre vilified and shouted down. Itâs very sad reading.
Oh look, somebody has been triggered
A racist stands up in the Dail and engages in shameless racism
And your problem is not with the racist, itâs with the person who objects to his racist comments
Work out what the problem is there
You lost the right to be taken in any way seriously when you did that
Stop coming across as a racism apologist and youâll stop getting pulled up for it
@farmerinthecity is up on his high horse, and thatâs one hell of a high horse
The sanctimonious defender of racists against people who object to racism
Heâs triggered that Coppinger was dead right, and he knows she was dead right, and he was dead wrong, thatâs what really irks him
Now heâs decided to dig in and make a fool of himself because his pride is hurt
My first thought when I read it was "are his figures accurate?. If that makes me a racist then fair enough.
It pleases me no end that my efforts to educate you on here over the past four years have not been in vain.
Is this always your first thought when someone whistles at you?
You racist pig how dare you think that. Donât you know you canât think like that.
@Sidney, @glasagusban and @Lazarus are effectively Nazis ⌠they want to censor discussion - They would have much preferred if Mr Grealish didnt name Nigeria yesterday, even tho it was the top country on the list ⌠and simply referred to it as âanotherâ - after name checking the other top 5 countries.
Itâs weird that the Grealish defenders want to tell people what they should and shouldnât be allowed to legally use their own money for
Thatâs called tyranny
@Fagan_ODowd??
Miriam Lord: Rare outing from the lesser-spotted Grealish captures DĂĄil attention
We worried the dog at home heard TDâs powerful whistle and escaped
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Noel Grealish TD has been called âracistâ and âa disgraceâ by fellow TDs after he asked Taoiseach Leo Varadkar if the government was ensuring that all money transferred out of Ireland to non-EU countries was being properly taxed. Video: Oireachtas TV
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A rare outing from the lesser-spotted Grealish, whose infrequent contributions to parliamentary proceedings are not keenly anticipated because he never says very much. This latest one promised to be no different.
Noel Grealish likes to keep things local on the rare occasion he takes the Rural Independentsâ slot at Leadersâ Questions: Galway hospital; funding for Connacht rugby; and the Apple data centre in Athenry were the chosen subjects for his three appearances in 2019. Apart from that, he managed seven further in the course of the DĂĄil year, three of them on the same night when he spoke on a national childrenâs hospital motion tabled by his own political group.
So when he got to his feet during Leadersâ Questions on Tuesday, the national parliament was not exactly agog.
The topic, given Grealishâs previous record, seemed particularly random.
He began talking about the âŹ10 billion which has been transferred from Ireland to other countries in the last eight years. âA staggering amount of money,â said the TD for Galway West, going on to list countries which received the largest amount of personal money transfers from people living here.
Maybe Grealish was concerned because Ireland has had a recent history of large sums of money leaving the jurisdiction and ending up in offshore accounts. Bogus offshore accounts
They included Lithuania and France, with Poland in third place, the UK in second and Nigeria getting far and away the biggest amount (âŹ3.54bn) from Ireland.
Suddenly, the low hum of conversation in the chamber stopped. The Taoiseach and TĂĄnaiste looked up and across the floor at Grealish. The press gallery became more attentive.
Just where was Grealish going with this?
Now, said deputy Grealish, he can see why so much money is sent to the UK âour nearest neighbourâ. Many good reasons for this, some of which he outlined.
âTaoiseach, transfers to other EU countries I can understand,â he declared, as eyebrows went up on all sides of the House.
âBut Taoiseach, âŹ3.4 billion transferred to one non-EU country is astronomical,â said Grealish, clearly very concerned. We were worried ourselves â not for the same reason as he was, but in case the dog at home heard Grealishâs powerful whistle and escaped.
A lot of that money could be dirty money, obtained by criminal means. Is there any way of checking that this non-European money from Nigerians is legit?
âTaoiseach, we canât have a situation whereby vast amounts of money are leaving the country with no proper controls or monitoring in place. My question to you Taoiseach is: can you give assurances that all these moneys, which are being transferred in personal remittances have been fully accounted for within the Irish revenue and tax system?â
Chickenfeed
Maybe Grealish was concerned because Ireland has had a recent, troubled history of large sums of money leaving the jurisdiction and ending up in offshore accounts. Bogus offshore accounts. The amounts stashed away in them not so long ago by our homegrown pillars of the community make the remittances to the non-European countries in Africa look like chickenfeed.
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Deputy Grealish has been interested in this subject for the last couple of months since he told a public meeting in his constituency about a planned direct provision centre that the people accommodated in it would be âeconomic migrants from Africaâ who are âspongersâ.
That was in September. And last month he submitted a written question to the Taoiseachâs department enquiring about âthe amount sent out of Ireland in personal remittances in each of the past 10 years; and the countries to which they were sent each yearâ.
An answer was duly supplied.
And then he followed up on Tuesday with his question to the Taoiseach on the floor of the DĂĄil. Viewed in the light of Grealishâs very few verbal interventions on any issue in the chamber, this represents a frenzied outburst of action from him.
The Taoiseach was equally puzzled by his line of questioning.
âThe numbers that you quote are, no doubt, correct but Iâm not quite sure where youâre going with this,â he generously replied.
Most of us had a very good idea where Grealish was heading.
Leo Varadkar reminded him of our own recent past â a past with which deputy Grealish, who is from Carnmore, would be familiar.
Everyone knows the stories of Irish people going all over the world to work and sending back remittances to Ireland. The Taoiseachâs late grandmother, who was from Waterford, used to tell him about the cheques that came back from America. All her family emigrated there.
No doubt his people in the US (acceptable non-EU country) sent the few bob home as well
He noted the distinction drawn by Grealish between EU money and non-EU money. Take a walk down the road to Holles Street and âyouâll see a hospital full of midwives from India, nurses from the Philippines and doctors from Egypt, Pakistanâ and everywhere else.
These are hardworking people who pay their taxes and send their money home.
âThat is the way the world works, and it is the way Ireland worked and still will for decades.â
As for the money laundering and the rest, there are controls and protections in place.
Sending a few bob home
Interestingly, one of the rare contributions from the lesser-spotted Grealish was earlier in the year when he spoke in support of a Fianna FĂĄil motion on the need to protect local radio stations.
âMany people have spoken about local radio stations but it is important that we speak about the people who are abroad. A lot of my family unfortunately had to emigrate, to the United States in particular. My local hurling club went to two county finals in the early 1990s. We used to do a deal with Galway Bay FM. The people abroad would ring the local radio station, which would be doing commentaryâŚâ
No doubt his people in the US (acceptable non-EU country) sent the few bob home as well.
Socialist TD Ruth Coppinger was outraged by Grealishâs remarks. She accused him of âdisgraceful racismâ and refused to take it back when he and his colleagues Micheal Healy-Rae and Mattie McGrath protested.
In his follow-up question, the Galway West TD said: âwe have to assure the peopleâ that money leaving the country is not the proceeds of crime. Although he conceded âan awful lot of it is genuineâ.
The tone of his contribution was defensive throughout. As TDs began to heckle him, with shouts of âdisgraceâ ringing out, he sat back and said sulkily: âIâm entitled to ask a question in this House.â
Nobody said he wasnât. But they donât have to like the question.
Coppinger, meanwhile, was not backing down. âIâll always shout down racists,â she declared to the Ceann Comhairle.
âWithdraw it!â bellowed McGrath.
âThereâs not a hope in hell of me withdrawing. Ok?â
And nobody tried to argue with her.
Her accusation, levelled under privilege, brought to mind that celebrated quote from Fr Ted after the hapless cleric lands himself in hot water following a tasteless joke.
âI hear youâre a racist now, father.â
Probably wonât be long before somebody, on foot of Coppingerâs DĂĄil utterance, says something similar to Noel Grealish, for the laugh.
In true professional contrarian for the sake of it style, youâre doing the exact thing you erroneously accuse others of doing
And adopt the cloak of fake victimhood while doing it
His figures are way, way off - the stupid fucker â How many Lithuanians have we in Ireland at all?
Grealish, who has recently called African asylum seekers âspongersâ, queried amounts of money being sent back to countries form Ireland. And despite getting these figures, he chose to ignore them, wave off excuses for money being sent to EU countries, quote a figure nearly 95% inflated from the actual figure he asked for and was given, and then claimed that this money being sent home by Nigerians was the proceeds of crime.
There is clear intent in what he was doing, and it wasnt for the benefit of finding out where and how this money was obtained or making an educated comment or investigation into something worthwhile.
Are you actually insane? Ireland up to at least the 70s, if not the early 90s, was an absolute backward shithole ran by deviant priests and sadistic nuns. A country where âordinaryâ people were happy to send women and girls they didnât approve of to concentration camps.
The only reason Irish people in Ireland were not racists back then is they had no interaction with other races, if a black person walked down Shop street in Galway the whole street would stop and stare. Outside of Ireland the Irish by and large were among the most racist you would meet, most of them uneducated yobs on building sites encountering other races for the first time. @anon61878697 would be the siteâs primary expert on such matters.