Ireland politics (Part 1)

Iā€™ve always voted Greem in every election that they ran a candidate since I could vote, but the current incarnation of the party really grates with me, an awful whiny backstabbing element has emerged

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Cheers mate

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I suppose that one could mistakenly think from the name of the party etc that their core mission would be gaining power to implement policies with a view to saving the planet.

If Iā€™m being honest I made a similar error.

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They need a ruthless leader like CJH

You think their current strategy is at odds with this?

Is there a strategy ?? Seems very fragmented to my eye

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Yes. I think theyā€™ve a superb opportunity to drive a great bargain and seem to be increasingly focused on ideological purity, culture wars and interval politics.

If you sincerely believed in the green movement but were a social conservative then you wouldnā€™t be welcome in Mickā€™s Green Party.

To be fair to the Greens a social conservative isnā€™t welcome in any party these days

Ah sure the Greens love to do this every now and again. Remember Gogarty saying ā€œfuck you deputy stag, fuck youā€.

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Iā€™d say heā€™s cooked in the leadership vote

Totally. Not a chance the Greens go into gov either now Iā€™d say.

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Kiss of death for Ryan just now. Charlie Flanagan defending him on the radio. Not sure he can recover from that.

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Whatā€™s interval politics @tallback?

Was that an offer or abuse?

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TDs running diagonally across a soccer pitch

The politics you engage in on social media in between doing something actually productive

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It shouldnā€™t matter as much in a single issue party though. You could be the most committed environmentalist possible and be blacklisted for believing a high % of travellers donā€™t care about the environment

A mighty sound gesture there from Charlie

Does anyone know anything about a guy called Kieran Allen? Apparently a UCD academic who leads Irish socialism from behind the scenes, supposedly wrote the manifestos for PBP and the SWP?