Rocko:
Juhniallio:
Rocko:
How do you think Shatter got to hear about it? Itâs absurdly naive to think FG just happened upon the information. It was an orchestrated attempt to discredit Wallace. Again you seem distracted by its poor execution, ignoring the obvious intent.
And on your other point you donât seem to be reading my posts. Labour have allowed this to happen. They are complicit by, at its most benign, turning a blind eye to FGâs dirty tricks. But we all know how Labour are losing the run of themselves in trying to attack those to the left. Theyâve stayed utterly silent on a ridiculously trumped up charge of a TD in a case directly involving their leader. Itâs an appalling tactical move politically, as well as being morally questionable. The efficacy, or lack of it, just adds a comedic value in exposing how poor their strategy is.
This is getting weird. I deliberately answered in 2 seperate posts to keep the issues seperate. In the one you answered I (nimby-stylie) asked you a direct question about what you think happened,with Wallace. You ignored that completely and called me naive for believing what? Something you presume I believe? Lay it out there Rocko. What do YOU think happened. And then you said I was distracted???
Your second point is that Labour were complicit by being in government with FG. This is a big climbdown from âthey orchestrated itâ, as you were suggesting earlier. Itâs like me saying the DUP were complicit in the murder of Kevin McGuigan because they share power with SF. And thatâs just not fair on the DUP, Rocko.
I was on my phone. I wasnât arsed doing 2 posts.
I never said Labour orchestrated anything.
I said they were complicit in mishandling various situations where itâs apparent that government policy and policing has overlapped. FG havenât really hidden this, Shatter was obviously gleefully involved, the eejit. And Labour have been too meek and too stupid to intervene. Iâd say thatâs partly down to cowardice, partly down to incompetence and partly down to the fact that theyâre afraid of the big bad left parties and have spent most of their time in government criticising those on the left instead of steering the government in that direction.
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Hereâs what you said
The government could have killed this a long time ago. Burton herself could clearly have killed it. They have chosen not to. There has been a steady drip feed of information into the public domain to gauge reactions before the charges were made.
You said Burton should have done something about it. She should have interfered with the judicial process according to you.
I await your apology.
Rocko
September 12, 2015, 8:39pm
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Juhniallio:
Rocko:
Juhniallio:
Rocko:
How do you think Shatter got to hear about it? Itâs absurdly naive to think FG just happened upon the information. It was an orchestrated attempt to discredit Wallace. Again you seem distracted by its poor execution, ignoring the obvious intent.
And on your other point you donât seem to be reading my posts. Labour have allowed this to happen. They are complicit by, at its most benign, turning a blind eye to FGâs dirty tricks. But we all know how Labour are losing the run of themselves in trying to attack those to the left. Theyâve stayed utterly silent on a ridiculously trumped up charge of a TD in a case directly involving their leader. Itâs an appalling tactical move politically, as well as being morally questionable. The efficacy, or lack of it, just adds a comedic value in exposing how poor their strategy is.
This is getting weird. I deliberately answered in 2 seperate posts to keep the issues seperate. In the one you answered I (nimby-stylie) asked you a direct question about what you think happened,with Wallace. You ignored that completely and called me naive for believing what? Something you presume I believe? Lay it out there Rocko. What do YOU think happened. And then you said I was distracted???
Your second point is that Labour were complicit by being in government with FG. This is a big climbdown from âthey orchestrated itâ, as you were suggesting earlier. Itâs like me saying the DUP were complicit in the murder of Kevin McGuigan because they share power with SF. And thatâs just not fair on the DUP, Rocko.
I was on my phone. I wasnât arsed doing 2 posts.
I never said Labour orchestrated anything.
I said they were complicit in mishandling various situations where itâs apparent that government policy and policing has overlapped. FG havenât really hidden this, Shatter was obviously gleefully involved, the eejit. And Labour have been too meek and too stupid to intervene. Iâd say thatâs partly down to cowardice, partly down to incompetence and partly down to the fact that theyâre afraid of the big bad left parties and have spent most of their time in government criticising those on the left instead of steering the government in that direction.
.
Hereâs what you said
The government could have killed this a long time ago. Burton herself could clearly have killed it. They have chosen not to. There has been a steady drip feed of information into the public domain to gauge reactions before the charges were made.
You said Burton should have done something about it. She should have interfered with the judicial process according to you.
I await your apology.
So, your suggestion that I said Labour orchestrated this has been disproven by your own evidence. Well done.
There has been no judicial process so far. Please stop misrepresenting what Iâm saying. Itâs an exaggeration to claim that Iâm suggesting Burton should interfere with the courts.
She has done nothing to diffuse this situation. She could and should have done more. The charges are clearly inflated and exaggerated. I believe itâs naive to think there has been no political motivation behind the charges of false imprisonment.
Who are responsible for these charges by the way?
Rocko:
Juhniallio:
Rocko:
Juhniallio:
Rocko:
How do you think Shatter got to hear about it? Itâs absurdly naive to think FG just happened upon the information. It was an orchestrated attempt to discredit Wallace. Again you seem distracted by its poor execution, ignoring the obvious intent.
And on your other point you donât seem to be reading my posts. Labour have allowed this to happen. They are complicit by, at its most benign, turning a blind eye to FGâs dirty tricks. But we all know how Labour are losing the run of themselves in trying to attack those to the left. Theyâve stayed utterly silent on a ridiculously trumped up charge of a TD in a case directly involving their leader. Itâs an appalling tactical move politically, as well as being morally questionable. The efficacy, or lack of it, just adds a comedic value in exposing how poor their strategy is.
This is getting weird. I deliberately answered in 2 seperate posts to keep the issues seperate. In the one you answered I (nimby-stylie) asked you a direct question about what you think happened,with Wallace. You ignored that completely and called me naive for believing what? Something you presume I believe? Lay it out there Rocko. What do YOU think happened. And then you said I was distracted???
Your second point is that Labour were complicit by being in government with FG. This is a big climbdown from âthey orchestrated itâ, as you were suggesting earlier. Itâs like me saying the DUP were complicit in the murder of Kevin McGuigan because they share power with SF. And thatâs just not fair on the DUP, Rocko.
I was on my phone. I wasnât arsed doing 2 posts.
I never said Labour orchestrated anything.
I said they were complicit in mishandling various situations where itâs apparent that government policy and policing has overlapped. FG havenât really hidden this, Shatter was obviously gleefully involved, the eejit. And Labour have been too meek and too stupid to intervene. Iâd say thatâs partly down to cowardice, partly down to incompetence and partly down to the fact that theyâre afraid of the big bad left parties and have spent most of their time in government criticising those on the left instead of steering the government in that direction.
.
Hereâs what you said
The government could have killed this a long time ago. Burton herself could clearly have killed it. They have chosen not to. There has been a steady drip feed of information into the public domain to gauge reactions before the charges were made.
You said Burton should have done something about it. She should have interfered with the judicial process according to you.
I await your apology.
So, your suggestion that I said Labour orchestrated this has been disproven by your own evidence. Well done.
There has been no judicial process so far. Please stop misrepresenting what Iâm saying. Itâs an exaggeration to claim that Iâm suggesting Burton should interfere with the courts.
She has done nothing to diffuse this situation. She could and should have done more. The charges are clearly inflated and exaggerated. I believe itâs naive to think there has been no political motivation behind the charges of false imprisonment.
What should she have done? Interfered with a garda investigation? That she is presumably giving evidence in?
Again, what exactly do you think happened with Shatter and Wallace being on the phone?
maroonandwhite:
It was a poor post though, the west brits are the few excitable dubs on here, they are just and misguided and stupid as their fellow countymen who vote for murphy. They might fool themselves into thinking they are republican, but their ancestors were out to greet the monarchy back in the day.
Jaysus, most Dubs are second generation culchies. Those who you refer to as west brits unfortunately have ruined this state with their conservative, selfish attitude backed up my large farmers who have no regard for the small manâŚthatâs only recently, the others have contrived to line their own pockets since the foundation of the state.
They hate Murphy. They hate Adams. They hate Daly. They want to be the best boys in Europe, loved by the ingerlish, ashamed by their grandparents who starved or worse maybe sided with the landlords.
for what died the sons of Roisin was it greed?
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I donât think she instigated the behavior in the first place, why should she be diffusing it?
Some of those protesters went way beyond peaceful.
I think rocko might now realise while there is a cuntishly close relationship between some high up guards, the government, and the media thereâs no illuminati conspiracy. And joan was trapped in her car and the guards abused by utter scumbags, not aggrieved tax payers at their wits ends. The fact the dpp, not the guards, or the politicians, have decided to bring charges shows weâre not in Zimbabwe just yet.
The ag was a Labour appointee, for the record.*
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maroonandwhite:
On one point the shriekers seem to have brainwashed the majority of posters here. The guards are at the water instillation sites because the scum element of the protesters have attacked and threatened the lads installing them.i know a lad working for Sierra, young lads mostly from the country who are just doing a job. Add in the fact that a huge portion of people donât care the meters are being installed at their houses or realise that the water meters are necessary, and the protestors who go from estate to estate threaten them too, just as they threaten the installers. All the guards are doing is protecting people from attack by these degenerate scum, thatâs the reason they are there, they are not there in the majority of the country where thereâs no issue with them being installed, but every simple fool with a smart phone screeches Denis o bribes private security force. âNo way we wonât payâ for anything, ever.
boo hoo, you hange around with scabs
Are you suggesting shes a political stooge? Do you not think some prosecutions were warranted based on what happened
This has been an excellent days fishing. Not a west brit left in the irish sea.
No. Far from it. It was explained to me recently the importance of the appointment of the AG for the smaller party in a coalition. The a gâs main purpose is to process the legislation of the government. There is a strange anomaly that the ag (if appointed by the bigger party in government) might often find more legal faults in the legislation/agenda of the smaller government party thus slowing down the implementation of their policies. Therefore, the appointment of the AG is hugely significant. It was a red line issue for labour apparently in the coalition negotiations. Itâs not surprising that fg have been more than happy to throw the current ag under the bus.
braz83
September 12, 2015, 11:31pm
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You do realise that the DPP and AG are different offices?
Iâve just looked at the above post and I said dpp as opposed to ag
Ah you donât know what your talking aboutâŚ
braz83
September 13, 2015, 3:23am
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Okay, but the AG is entirely irrelevant to the discussion at hand.