Ireland v Norway

Duffer was done by then. The tournament really came a year too late for that team - it’s big names in Duffer, Robbie, Given, O’Shea, Dunne were all past their prime and struggling for injury and form heading into it.

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A grand cliche over the years was how the Irish media would talk about ā€œour one world class playerā€.

Fillers of this very prestigious role over the years included:
Liam Brady
Ronnie Whelan
Paul McGrath
Roy Keane
Robbie Keane (much as I love Robbie we were beginning to embellish things a wee bit by calling him world class)
Damien Duff (same)

Then circa 2014 Seamus Coleman became ā€œour one world class playerā€, and the cliche well and truly jumped the shark.

Now the cliche has morphed into ā€œour one Premier League playerā€.

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Andy Reid wouldn’t have got in an Irish midfield in the mid to late 70’s. We had Brady, Giles, Heighway and Mick Martin

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That’s tremendous internetting on a Saturday afternoon :clap::clap::clap:

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The Coleman one was gas, linked with United and Bayern, I think Bayern had Philip Lahm at rightback then, before Pep put him in midfield

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Robbie’s international goals record puts him in the world class category. It’s actually phenomenal. Playing on an average to poor team in the toughest continent. Looked it up there of all time european goalscorers only Ronaldo, puskas, lewandowski, and gerd muller are ahead of him. And he played for fucking Ireland :open_mouth:
Edit: actually he’s the same as gerd muller, albeit muller only played about 5 games for his 68 goals.

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Brady, Keane X 2 and Johnny Giles were our truly were class players.

McGrath could have been one of the goats only for his knees and other issues, based on an argument by farmer I’m having him too as world class

Robbie Keane is 16th on the list of all time premier league goalscorers with 126 - we took him for granted

In 2012?

I’ll go

  1. Iniesta

  2. Xavi

  3. Modric

  4. Pirlo

  5. Alonso

  6. Busquets

  7. De Rossi

  8. Silva

  9. Rakitic

  10. Fabregas

  11. Cazorla

  12. Montolivo

  13. Perisic

  14. Marchisio

  15. Navas

  16. Krancjar

  17. Badelj

  18. Giaccherini

  19. Croatian I’ve never heard of

  20. Croatian I’ve never heard of

  21. Whelan

I always thought Thiago Motta was shite so I’m not including him.

The top four there make up four of the five best midfielders in the world in the last three decades.

+1

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ah jesus… Pirlo is ahead of Modric. ah no… you can’t have Pirlo behind Luka in 2012? Fair enough behind Iniesta and Xavi

Paul McGrath was world class.

Being fucked with injuries and still turning out the performances he did shows how good he was.

He wax a cracking midfielder too,

Niall Quinn and Andy Townsend were linked with AC Milan in 1993. At least according to the Irish media of the time.

The Irish media of the time also reported it was all but certain the final qualifier in Belfast would be moved to Old Trafford and that FIFA had privately arranged (ie. fixed it) that Ireland would be drawn in Boston for the finals.

Seamus was a fine full back at his best and a great professional but world class he wasn’t.

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yeah, I’ll have that. a real likeable fella too… I’ll stick him in

His goal against Hungary in the 1990 qualification was brilliant. I saw it recently.

Hit it on the volley from outside the box.

And him a centre half by trade.

I’m pretty sure he started out as a midfielder and drifted back to centre half because of injury and mobility issues

I think it took a lot of people time to really cop onto how good Modric was because he was with Spurs. He ran the show against England at Wembley back in 2007. 2012 would have been his peak physically but his brain has more than compensated for any physical decline in the years since then. He may be the greatest midfielder of all time at this stage.

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That might be the best era ever for midfielders

ah stop lad, it’s world cup eve and I’m getting giddy now. I absolutely love a major competition. I’d been low key up to now but I’m really looking forward to it.

I used love making lists and doing competitions when I was a kid

For a big tournament I’d write out all the squads, the groups and each fixture and play them off using a deck of cards, 5 cards each drawn, red is a goal, black is not. So you could have mad results. I’d spend hours doing it when it was pissing wet, I’d play off World Cups, Euros, European Cups, Cup winners Cups, and I’d attribute goals to players arbitrarily, player of the tournament the same

I’d never cheat only if Ireland were playing England

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Check out the goal he scores here after about 40 seconds of the clip.

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Best first round finals group for midfielders anyway.

Who would contend from other eras? Zidane, Platini, Matthaus?

Some of those Yugoslavian midfielders that emerged in the late 80s/very early 90s were supreme ball players - Savicevic, Stojkovic, Prosinecki, Boban etc. but you couldn’t have them ranked with the all time greats.

Hagi was great but wouldn’t be in the running in the all time list.

Was Bobby Charlton a midfielder or a forward or a combination of both? My impression was he was more of a midfielder with great attacking instincts.

Diego obviously, you don’t really associate with him with being a midfielder because he was everywhere but nominally that’s what he was at his best.

Strangely enough Brazil is not a country you associate with great midfielders part from maybe Socrates. The last two World Cups they won were won with relative plodders like Mauro Silva, Dunga, Kleberson and Gilberto Silva.

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