Can you put that up.
The IT have ran with some very disingenuous headlines and interpretations of the questions with loaded questions before.
The Security Forum has come around at exactly the right moment. Interesting that SFers support Britain policing our skies.
It is sad that the crusty Student Union types wonât allow our democracy to work and want to shut down debate.
There is clear majority support for the retention of Irelandâs current model of neutrality, the latest Irish Times/Ipsos opinion poll has found, but voters also want to see the State âsignificantly increase its military capacityâ to defend airspace and territorial waters.
Asked if they support the Stateâs current model of military neutrality or if they would like to see it change, 61 per cent of voters said they favoured the current model, while just more than a quarter (26 per cent) said they would like to see it change. Thirteen per cent of respondents expressed no opinion.
Among voters who favour a change in the policy of neutrality, there is majority support for joining Nato and closer EU defence co-operation. Among these voters 71 per cent are in favour of joining a closer EU defence co-operation, while 56 per cent support joining Nato.
Though the poll findings represent a decline in support for neutrality of five points since last year, strong support remains for the status quo as the Government prepares to hold a series of public discussions about the future of Irelandâs neutrality and defence policy in general, which begin next week.
However, there is also strong support (55 per cent) for âsignificantly increasing Irelandâs military capacityâ to defend airspace and territorial waters. But a majority of voters who expressed an opinion are also in favour of seeking help from other countries for our defence needs.
Asked if Ireland should seek help from other countries to protect our undersea internet cables â a mounting concern in Europe and the United States â 48 per cent said we should seek help, with 36 per cent saying we should âuse our own Defence Forcesâ. Three per cent said the cables do not require protection, while 13 per cent said they do not know.
Asked about the arrangement under which the British Royal Air Force defends Irish airspace, 40 per cent said they were happy with the arrangement, 12 per cent said they were unhappy, 12 per cent said they were neither happy nor unhappy, while 33 per cent said they were unaware of it.
The poll was conducted among 1,200 adults at 120 sampling points across all constituencies between June 11th-13th. Respondents were interviewed at their own homes. The accuracy is estimated at plus or minus 2.8 per cent.
So youâre not a socialist, youâre a Tory.
Youâve proved my point. I said you would run away from whatâs charged at you with nonsensical rubbish. Boris Johnson like you is an ardent supporter of Western imperialism and the neo-nazi Ukrainian military. I have no problem in calling out both Russian and Western imperialism, Iâm not aligned with either.
Can you address any of the below or will you just resort to the desperate lies you spout.
All you offer is desperate deflection tactics of misrepresenting others when your hypocrisy and insincerity is pointed out to you. Youâre not able to explain why you are unwilling to condemn or address the neo-Nazi elements of Ukraine military, the corruption of the Ukrainian govt, the tyrannical regimes, apartheid states and genocidal dictators the West have and continue to back. When these contradictions are called out, you wonât address them - youâll only sling mud. Youâre the perfect example of far right grift, dishonesty and propaganda.
We want to hear why youâve no issue with Western imperialism, their support for Israel and Saudi Arabia, the countless genocidal fascist dictators they helped to powers and supported in the past, the neo-Nazi regiments of Ukrainian military, Zelenskyâs zionism and trail of corruption. Youâre a complete and utter hypocrite and we all know you for the nasty little jumped up fascist you are.
The forum offers the chance to discuss all issues including how our policy of neutrality works, something which the majority what to strengthen to continue to allow that. That is something the public wants going by that poll.
https://www.gov.ie/en/publication/b4dcb-frequently-raised-topics/
The âno to NATOâ brigade set wonât allow any discussion whatsoever. For example, how can you not want any change but be happy for Britain to help police our skies? This is a point I made long ago here when it wasnât widely known what role the RAF played here.
It appears as though the likes of @Fulvio_From_Aughnacloy would prefer for Britain to oversee our sovereignty.
The forum is rigged with pro-NATO shills and military lunatics.
Itâs the govt who wonât allow the other side in on the debate.
Mate
But weâre asking you? Are you above addressing your hypocrisy? I can say that you have pulled those selective quotes out of context as usual to try and shift the focus from yourself.
Itâs desperation tactics. You wonât address your lust for imperialism, for how you are happy to support neo-Nazis, how you are happy to support genocidal, apartheid fascist regimes. It shows you up as a vile cyncial, hypocrite. If you are so against fascism and neo-nazism then why canât you condemn Western support for Israel and Saudi Arabia? If you so for democray in Ukraine then why canât you address the serious question marks over Zelensky, the Pandora papers and his zionist links?
We all see that you donât have morals, you just believe in white supermacism and Western ideology should rule the world? Youâre a bigot and youâre a coward who is incapable of showing conviction if anything you say as you donât mean it.
Clare Daly trotted out a lot of glenshane and esteban et Alâs pro Russia talking points just there and was politely but quite comprehensively dismantled by the responses just there, made her look quite foolish I think. Wouldnât be hard says you.
Daly isnât pro Russian. Thatâs what right wing white supermacists like you try to unfairly tarnish here as. Sheâs a left leaning politician who wants a peaceful resolution in Ukraine and has a severe distaste for all the bloodshed by Western imperialism across the world.
Clare Dalyâs âsocialismâ is of the National variety.
Werenât you the chap who this week tried to holocaust deny decades of institutional racism in the US?
What odds would you have got on at least one of the protesters being a bearded hipster type with a man bun?
About 1 in 4 of those who voted in favour of repealing the 8th changed their mind after the Citizens Assembly and debate on abortion.
It appears that the protestors fear is that by just debating this that opinions could shift where they donât want them to go.
The paucity of the quality of debate from the anti-NATO people is most instructive.
All shouting, all dumb soundbytes, personal attacks and non sequiturs.
Itâs fucking hilarious that so many of the people who shout âFree Palestineâ, which I think anybody with a grain of justice in their heart would agree with, are so anti-Ukraine.
The INTERNET has led so many people into holding totally ludicrous and totally contradictory positions which they cannot defend.
Just shouting shame at him, do they have nothing else?
https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1671801737726816256?s=46&t=jcSMeoduIpPkggX6IuDhBQ
Even has a âwhere is John Rogers?â character on the left.
The whole thing about ditching neutrality is being led by the fart sniffers in iveagh house, the last cunts to pick up a weapon